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A point (or three) against Liverpool on Sunday would mean that AVB has amassed 100 Premier League points faster than any manager in Tottenham's history.

For the record, Harry had 91 points after his first 54 games in charge of Spurs.
 
Right Lads. Really excited now. For the first time in years I`ve just managed to get through my shift at work without hearing the result. I`m gonna grab a couple of beers and watch my sky plus recording and not view any posts on here to give anything away. Come on you mother-fucking spurs lets smash`em. Judging by the number of pages on the match thread already I`m getting the tingling feeling there`s a spurs classic on the way. See ya later ! COYS
 
this is my ideal lineup...i feel for dembele though...great player but where do u play him..
Come on people, have you that quickly forgotten how influential he was again Man U couple of weeks ago?

It's not a question of where you play him ... You have to play him.

Our current strongest side includes him. I feel a lot of us fans underrate him massively.
Imo especially against the top 6 sides, he definitely deserves a place in the starting lineup.
 
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I'll stay supporting Spurs, though thank you very much for your advice, as I've done for over 50 years.

I would love to go back to the days when I started supporting us when we were the moneybags of football, and winning trophies and playing great football, just like City are doing now.
Did we sell our soul when we kept breaking transfer records and paying huge fees to get in Jones Blanchflower Greaves Mackay & Co.

Our great team was built on expensive imports. And we carried on relying on buying expensive players, until the time came when we couldn't compete at the most expensive level anymore.
it wasn't advice - it was my opinion. I'm aware of your longevity as a supporter, and it wasn't a "fuck off and support someone else comment"
Unless I am mistaken we were the moneybags then, for the same reason we are now, prudent management, good buys in the transfer market and a board that put its money where its heart and mouth is/was. Nobody gifted the club its money then, or now.
The difference is we have what we earned, nobody spunked obscene amounts on the club to advertise their airline, off the back of petrol sales. Our growth or development is organic not gifted by an obscenely rich benefactor using the club as a tool rather than as a passion.
 
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Tottenham Hotspur host Liverpool at White Hart Lane on Sunday 16th December 2013 (KO 16:00) in the 16th round of matches in the 2013-14 Premier League season.

Tottenham come into the match in 6th place on 27 points, while Liverpool are in 2nd place on 30 points.

This will be the 165th time the two clubs have met.

The first meeting came on Boxing Day in 1894 when Liverpool, who had been established just two years earlier after a dispute with Everton, played a friendly at Tottenham Marshes in a game won 3-0 by Spurs. A further visit from Liverpool was even less successful in Easter 1895 with Spurs winning 6-0.

The first Football League meeting between the two clubs took place at White Hart Lane in November 1909 with Spurs winning 1-0 thanks to a Bert Middlemiss goal. He became the first Spurs player to score against both Merseyside clubs.

The reverse fixture that season was won by Liverpool 2-0 at Anfield, which had previously been the home of Everton before their move to Goodison Park.

All 139 League meetings played to date between Spurs & Liverpool have taken place in the Top Flight of English football.

Tottenham's 2-1 First Division win at Anfield in March 1912 would be their last at the ground for 73 years with the jinx finally being broken by a Garth Crooks goal in 1-0 win in March 1985.

The first FA Cup meeting came in the 5th Round in March 1968 and resulted in a 1-1 draw at the Lane. Liverpool won the replay 2-1.

To date, the clubs have met 7 times in the competition with Tottenham's only win coming at Anfield in the 6th Round in March 1995 when goals from Teddy Sheringham and Jurgen Klinsmann earned a 2-1 victory.

The teams first met in the Football League Cup in 1972 and have played 7 times in the competition with Spurs winning four games with two draws.

Liverpool's only win came in the 1982 Final at Wembley which was won 3-1 after extra time. Steve Archibald put Spurs ahead but Ronnie Whelan's brace and a goal from Ian Rush ensured that the Reds lifted the silverware.

The teams contested the Charity Shield in August that year with League Champions Liverpool beating FA Cup Winners Spurs 1-0.

Liverpool are one of three English clubs Spurs have played in European Competitions to date - the other being Manchester United and Wolverhampton Wanderers.

Spurs beat Liverpool in the 1973 UEFA Cup Semi-Final 2-1 with a brace of goals from Martin Peters but a 1-0 win to Liverpool in the second leg at Anfield meant that the Reds progressed to the Final on the away goals rule.

Two matches were played in Swaziland in June 1984 reulting in a 5-2 win for Liverpool and a 1-1 draw.

In December 1985 and January 1986 the clubs met in the Screen Sport Super Cup - a competition played due to English club's being barred from European competition - with Liverpool winning both matches 2-0.

Both Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur were founder-members of the Premier League in season 1992-93 and are two of the seven clubs who have been ever-present in the competition for the past 22 seasons (Woolwich, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton and Manchester United are the other five).

The home fixture at White Hart Lane in November 2010 resulted in a 2-1 win for Spurs. Liverpool went ahead just before halftime with a goal from Martin Skrtel but Spurs came back in the second half with an own goal from Skrtel after 65 minutes and an injury-time winner from Aaron Lennon.

The reverse fixture at Anfield in May 2011 proved to be the UEFA Europa League decider with Spurs winning 2-0 with goals from Rafael van der Vaart and a Luka Modric penalty.

The game at White Hart Lane in September 2011 was won 4-0 by Spurs with goals from Luka Modric, Jermain Defoe and a brace from new loan signing Emmanuel Adebayor. Liverpool had both Charlie Adam and Martin Skrtel sent-off. The match at Anfield in February 2012 finished in a goalless draw, as did a tour match played in Baltimore, USA in July 2012.

Tottenham beat Liverpool in November 2012 at White Hart Lane 2-1. Aaron Lennon put Spurs ahead after 7 minutes and Gareth Bale added a second 9 minutes later from a free kick. In the second half, Bale deflected into his own net after 72 minutes.

Luis Suarez put Liverpool ahead at Anfield in March 2013 after 21 minutes but Jan Vertonghen equalised just before half-time. The Belgian defender put Spurs ahead eight minutes into the second half before Stuart Downing leveled things in the 66th minute. An 82nd minute Steven Gerrard penalty ensured that all three points went to Liverpool

Tottenham have won 13 of the 42 Premier League matches played so far with Liverpool on 18 wins and 11 games drawn.

Overall, Liverpool have the upper hand over Spurs with 74 wins to 49 with 41 of the 164 matches played so far drawn.

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Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Liverpool Matches 1894-2014

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They Played for Spurs & Liverpool....

Nick Barmby
Keith Burkinshaw
(Liverpool player, Spurs manager)
Harry Bradshaw
Joe Brough
Ray Clemence
Peter Crouch
Brad Friedel

Charlie Hewitt
Robbie Keane
Oyvind Leonhardsen
Doug Livermore
(Liverpool player, Spurs official)
Danny Murphy
Paul Konchesky
Jamie Redknapp
Ronnie "The Rocket" Rosenthal
Neil "Razor" Ruddock
John Scales

Tom Soulsby
Graeme Souness (also Liverpool manager)
John Stephenson
Paul Stewart
Paul Walsh
Christian Ziege


 
No worries about Sterling?

Kid's gotta have the best set of lungs ever, fucking everywhere, always moving and fighting for possession, pacey. Striking, meh, but everything else is pretty damn impressive in my book. Always gets the ball or whistle.

Also creates a lot of chances, especially in the West Ham game, meh, but, something we certainly weren't able to do.
Just a shit Aaron Lennon
 
Mignolet = Lloris - Mignolet the better shot stopper, Lloris superior at the sweeper keeper stuff.
Johnson > Walker - at his best Johnson is definitely better, so we'll have to hope the good Glen turns up Sunday.
Skrtel = Dawson - both decent, neither probably top four material but have started most games this season.
Sakho = Chiriches - both good defenders with great potential.
Flanagan < Rose - no argument here, but if Kelly is fit to start then he's an upgrade on Jon.
Lucas < Sandro - Sandro's been their best player in most Spurs games I've seen this season.
Allen < Dembele - two £15m men with different skillsets, Dembele has been the better buy but an in-form Allen is class.
Henderson = Paulinho - Hendo's decent, Paulinho's good but hasn't totally settled in to English football yet.
Sterling < Lennon - similar players with similar starts to their careers. Naturally the one at his peak is better at the moment.
Suarez >>> Soldado - as far as all the individual tussles go, this is the most convincing win of them all.
Coutinho > Chadli - admittedly I haven't seen much of Chadli but he hasn't looked as good as Phil when I have.

Here is a shorter and more accurate view:
Suarez > anyone in our team.
Spurs other 10 players > any of Liverpools remaining 10, possibly with the exception of Coutinho on his day.
 
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