I actually didn't think he played that abysmally today, but it's clear that he's now a few steps off his pace and will get punished against quality opposition.
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I'm not saying that Kaboul was the worst today (I think that title unfortunately belongs to Dier today), I just feel that it is painfully clear that he is not good enough, and at his age that isn't going to change any time soon.
I thought he had a very good game today.
He was our best defender today.
i think that serious injury kaboul got came at the worst time & he hasn't been the same since.
he was really growing as a CB & he was having his bad season until that major injury.
i honestly thought he was 1 of our best players.
since that injury he still looks quite good but nowhere near as good as he was.
he was developing really nicely.
we need 4 CBs & i want to keep him as 1. but we do need a better CB especially against the better teams!
he was really growing as a CB & he was having his bad season until that major injury.
i honestly thought he was 1 of our best players.
since that injury he still looks quite good but nowhere near as good as he was.
he was developing really nicely.
we need 4 CBs & i want to keep him as 1. but we do need a better CB especially against the better teams!
He looked fast as fuck today.
He won his headers, distributed the ball well, he could easily run with the quickest of their forwards, didn't make any mistakes that I remember. What else do you want from the guy?
I honestly think Rose was probably our best defender and it was Dier that was the weak sport today. I think Dier needs some easier competition and Naughton should come back into the team for the time being.
Kaboul and Chiriches were both pretty solid though too, they both tackled well, distributed well and didn't really take a step wrong. We were just punished for two small errors and got pretty unlucky.
Except for that ludicrous back pass that put lloris under pressure with 2 mins to go?
Really? Vlad was solid and distributed well?
Rose best defender?
:capouestare:
Anything but admit anything positive for Kabs.
Rose was too busy missing sitters and stepping on Ades feet to defend.
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Oh FFS really? Actually modifying what I said to try and get a dig in
So why you've then said
Is beyond me.
As for Rose missing sitters and stepping on Ade's feet... Other than the early chance he should of done better with I've no idea what you mean... Like at all. How was Rose stepping on Ade's feet at all? In fact since this is one of the very few times a heat map will come in handy here we go.
Notice how he rarely ventures from the left side of the pitch? So if they were interfering with each other (not something I saw) then it was mostly likely Ade going out to the left.
You know what, I really can't be bothered with this anymore though, I'm putting you on ignore since this is waste of both of our time and recently I feel like I'm becoming the knew
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with you.
Oh FFS really? Actually modifying what I said to try and get a dig in
So why you've then said
Is beyond me.
As for Rose missing sitters and stepping on Ade's feet... Other than the early chance he should of done better with I've no idea what you mean... Like at all. How was Rose stepping on Ade's feet at all? In fact since this is one of the very few times a heat map will come in handy here we go.
Notice how he rarely ventures from the left side of the pitch? So if they were interfering with each other (not something I saw) then it was mostly likely Ade going out to the left.
You know what, I really can't be bothered with this anymore though, I'm putting you on ignore since this is waste of both of our time and recently I feel like I'm becoming the knew
Pretty funny that the heat map shows him in the ops box as much as the one he's supposed to be defending. You can pick a glory hunter as the best defender if you like.
So you're saying our wing backs shouldn't get into the box......
Yes.
Since over the years our wingbacks hardly score and assist from open play. Even when they are called Gareth Bale. Him as a wingback had the longest run without a win.
Their attacking pluses do not outweigh their defensive frailty. Rose like Bale should be a winger and be nowhere near a defense.
Rose did make tackles when he had too. He made a great one in the box second half. We have to remember, Dier is not a RB. He did pretty ok apart from the Johnson goal. He showed Johnson the right side, but unfortunately gave him a little too much space. IMO he's better than naughton there. Chiriches I like as he can bring the ball out. He never did much wrong. Kaboul had a good game too and credit where it is due. Wickham got no joy from him all day long. Did Sunderland trouble us that much? No. The game was lost not from defending it was lost from lack of clinical finishing,
Watch a Southampton game from last year and tell me the wing backs shouldn't get as high as possible. We has 5 midfielders on yesterday and not one of them are natural wingers, need that width and someone to make an option. You can say what you like about Rose but I think he's been great under Poch, fantastic engine and he always keeps his winger busy, I don't even remember who was on the right wing for Sunderland yesterday they were kept that quiet. I agree we show defensive frailty occasionally but when we're regularly commanding 60/70 percent possession the wing backs are more an attacking requirement than a defensive one.
Yeah. Let's go allllll the way to last fucking year.
My point is we have no width without our wingbacks and them bombing forward gives Lamela Eriksen etc more space and more options.
The wingbacks Rose, Naughton and Walker STARVED Soldado, Lamela and Defoe last season.
You have a romantic ideal of what our wingbacks provide. Packing the midfield with Dembele, Capoue, Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela is where our attacks should be generated. It's more than enough.
And instead of Rose and co shanking chances, players who can finish should be in the final third.