Also interesting that Ive been slated because I think Holtby is no more than a squad player....yet in 4 pages of the thread about starting line ups, only one person had in him their 11.
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Also interesting that Ive been slated because I think Holtby is no more than a squad player....yet in 4 pages of the thread about starting line ups, only person had in him their 11.
Evidence: Watching Holtby play footballI don't think anyone's slating you for that, it's the beliefs you make without sufficient evidence or rationale
You've had multiple people telling you that your assumption pertaining to Fulham is not only incorrect, but a poor method of evaluating a player
and you cunted them all off without seeming to listen and consider.
Evidence: Watching Holtby play football
Rational: He´s average
I didnt use it to evaluate the player. You didnt listen. I evaluated him by WATCHING him.
You say my assumption is incorrect....with ZERO evidence to the contrary.
Then deny that you are assuming I am wrong.
Thats why you got cunted off.
Not listening.
Telling me Im wrong but doing the EXACT same thing by making assumptions (while denying it the whole time)
Only your assumptions are completely illogical...ie, Holtby wanted to join Fulham, and turned down bigger clubs to stay in London
Now you say that if he joins Palace, I have a point about his level. Sigh.
This response is loaded to the brim with incorrect stances and interpretations.
You clearly won't budge from your bizarre thought processes, and quite clearly no one else agrees with you, therefore it is a complete waste of time to try and continue to point out the things that should be blatantly obvious to you. Each of my responses has only fueled the fire in giving you more words to twist incorrectly with yet more bizarre thought processes.
You were binned for acting out of line. Learn from it instead of coming back and continuing with the same nonsense.
So in your opinion (the opinion about Holtby, as your ramblings about me and Gibbs are irrelevent to a Spurs discussion):
We can judge Holtby´s ability by the level of clubs interested in him if they are buying.........but not if they only want him on loan.
You claim you are not assuming I am wrong. Its a fact that I am wrong. But you cannot show me one club that Holtby turned down to join Fulham through his own preference.
While lacking any evidence to make your assumption (that Im wrong), you base that assumption on the fact that I have no evidence that bigger clubs were not in for Holtby.
(In short, you are a massive hypocrite)
You then deny that you have made an assumption. Simply proposed a possibilty.
And my thought process in bizarre....?
So in your opinion (the opinion about Holtby, as your ramblings about me and Gibbs are irrelevent to a Spurs discussion):
We can judge Holtby´s ability by the level of clubs interested in him if they are buying.........but not if they only want him on loan.
You claim you are not assuming I am wrong. Its a fact that I am wrong. But you cannot show me one club that Holtby turned down to join Fulham through his own preference.
While lacking any evidence to make your assumption (that Im wrong), you base that assumption on the fact that I have no evidence that bigger clubs were not in for Holtby.
(In short, you are a massive hypocrite)
You then deny that you have made an assumption. Simply proposed a possibilty.
And my thought process in bizarre....?
A purchase vs a 3 and a half month loan? Do the differences in each, and the implications on career and lifestyle, really have to be explained to you? Have you not ever received a job offer and considered your possibilities, or known someone who has? If so, this really should not need explaining
No, what I claimed was "wrong" was that you had insufficient basis to state Fulham was the single most interested club in the player because they landed him on a short loan.
If Ronaldo was being offered on loan for three months, do you think the clubs interested would reflect the level of his ability?
I do
You've had multiple people telling you that your assumption pertaining to Fulham is not only incorrect, but a poor method of evaluating a player..
This is what you said this morning. I stopped reading your post because you are a massive liar who has lost track of what he is saying.
Your levels of erratic behaviour is evidenced clearly above...
10.29 am "I have no interest in continuing this...."
10.46 am "No...I want to continue..."
You're right, it was folly to continue, as you've seemed to concoct yet another simply false idea that there was some disconnect or contradiction in my statements. It's stupid to continue having to point out the readily obvious only for you to continue the train of nonsensical accusations. The way your brain works is truly a wonder, sweetheart.
Deuces, enjoy the game later.
I think holtby is above average but not near worldclass he was excellent at schalke but with no consistent play last two years his form prob has dipped i think we keep holtby you need players like him to glue a team together and make them like family which is important for team morale and he is the only natural replacement for erickssen
Man the arguments in here are pretty silly.
I think it is CLEAR that Holtby is an AVERAGE player. His pressing and through balls are perhaps above average but the rest of his game is not. He is very limited, loses the ball or gives up possession often, is prone to mistakes, is prone to frantic runs with no purpose and his game can turn sloppy at any given moment.
Spurs only payed 1.5 or 2 million for him. While he did only have 6 months or whatever left on his contract, this price still reflects his ability level and his value to the rest of the football world.