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I don't think so personally. Poor movement is poor movement. The amount of times that our CMs drop deep or to the wing and nobody fills up the midfield space is shocking imo. I know it's difficult to concentrate when we are playing so badly (it is for me anyway, I'm usually screaming blue murder), but next time just count in your head the amount of times you see a great big void between the centre circle and the box where one of our players should be popping up to offer an outlet. Sometimes it is even a question of side stepping 1 yard to show you're an option.
This is why we should really consider playing Holtby as the CAM and Dempsey/Ceballos/McEvoy/Pritchard/[insert other highly rated youth] on the right if Lennon is out. Holtby has proved in ever appearance he's made that he always seeks the ball carrier to give him an option, that's an invaluable feature for us at the moment.
I feel you may have missed the point somewhat.Mock him all you want, but I think he's right. There does need to be a huge dose of reality for a lot of fans.
The problem is that football in the modern era is as much a ruthless business as it is a sport. If anything most fans of most clubs get wrapped up in the notion of glory, be it trophies, big games, star players or whatever else. This tends to put on the rose tinted glasses that converts hope into expectation. Fans then get pissed off when their over inflated expectations aren't fulfilled and they see other teams doing better,or getting a trophy they never won. For me, having started following the club when we are pretty fucking shit, it is with huge incredulity that I now see the lack of spirit and booiing that happens. People have short memories, and they also do not realise than as much as they are fans of the game, they're also consumers of the modern business. The latter is not grasped by a great deal of them.
ArcspacE is right in so much as there needs to be a dose of good hard reality about where Spurs sit in the grand scheme of things. Like it or not, we have to compete in the business side of football and, at present, we are not anywhere close to top of the tree. If anything our current league position and the quality of our squad is a testament to Levy's business abilities (irrepsective of his football abilities) in so much as we are probably in a better position than our wage structure, stadium and financial capital currently allows.
Fans have to appreciate that success in business does not come overnight and the business element is a fundamental part of the modern game. We have made huge strides in the last 15 years. People must be patient and realise that as long as we take little steps each year in the right direction then sooner or later we will start to get the success they long for. They need to get away from this idea that "I've paid my money and I want it all now, now, now". That's simply not how it works. Christ, so many fans these days, of this club and others, remind me of the Veruca Salt character from Willy Wonka and her "I want a golden goose daddy" song.
I wouldn't argue with that. AVB needs to sit him down and let him know he has time... Both on the pitch and off it. All the flicks and one touch passing is too much at the moment as he doesn't really seem to know his teamates movements... Slow it down a fraction and I think he'd be a great asset for the rest of the season.
whisper it, but SOME Spurs fans are right cunts... they jumped on the bandwagon at what they thought would be the 'Spurs Boom' in 2010-11, tagged along for the glory ride in the CL, then wondered (and moaned) at why it wasn't being repeated every year since then...
yes there are some pwopa old school moaners at the Lane too, one's who have been moaning since we came back into the Top flight in '78... but at least they've earned their stripes to have a whinge...
With the newbie fans, comes the newbie whinger, and it's starting to rub off on some others!!!
I had a great time until we equalised and everything went flat. I was so confused. Saw you and Cole as you were leaving as well.
the amount of tourists I saw all over the place last night was ridiculous. There has definitely been an influx of supporters since our CL run who expect "glory". And those ST holders have been priced out, they were there in our shit years of course they'd want to be here now that we're half decent.
