FWIW I think this bloke is still the balls but remains to be seen whether the current manager or another one will get the best out of him.
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No its does not compare to playing and beating the best in Europe and getting to the final. But if you think that you should hope we get relegated so that we can go for the champship next season, fuck the top 4.
I will be long gone by then but it's nice to see tradition is still alive and well in the future by yet again narrowly missing out once more.
I’m in two minds about Poch In/Poch out but Gareth Southgate, seriously?
He is ahead of what plan?
It’s 2019 dickhead.
The problems now are rooted in the last two years.
This is not some knee jerk reaction. Our form over a calendar year has gone from being title winners to mid table also rans who can’t win away.
You want to keep your head buried in the sand though then crack on.
I mainly feel sorry for our match day old school fans. Being charged top dollar to watch a mid table team go through the motions.
And on the few occasions you get genuinely excited being told to sit back down like naughty school children.
In no world do I foresee a scenario where we sack Poch, and nor should we. When Poch goes, I am positive several of this team will leave. Even though we have been shocking in 2019 (CL run aside) this is still the best collection of Spurs players I have seen at this club. I can't see anybody coming in and maintaining the level of consistent Champions League football if we were to lose the core of this team.
Guardiola spoke in his press conference yesterday about Arteta taking over from him, Klopp has spoken about leaving within a couple of seasons as well. I can't see these guys both still being here by the time the 2022 WC rolls around, I think Klopp is getting the absolute max out of their team and I can't see them becoming a powerhouse for five years just because of the players they have and City might have all the money in the world but we saw with previous managers it doesn't always turn out as good as it has with Pep.
We need to be on hand ready to pounce when those guys leave and the new managers are bedding in, that is part of why Leicester were able to win the league - they pounced at the perfect time when some clubs were in transition periods. That year City had Pellegrini as coach knowing full well Guardiola would be coming in, United were managed by van Gaal and still picking up the pieces from Fergie, Liverpool started the season with Rodgers already half-sacked and was gone by October, Chelsea of course had Mourinho but that all went remarkably wrong, Wenger was well past his used by date and we were only just coming up with our new manager in his second season. There will come a point when this City and Liverpool monopoly is over and we can challenge again and we have to make sure we are primed and ready for that time.
Guardiola spoke in his press conference yesterday about Arteta taking over from him, Klopp has spoken about leaving within a couple of seasons as well. I can't see these guys both still being here by the time the 2022 WC rolls around, I think Klopp is getting the absolute max out of their team and I can't see them becoming a powerhouse for five years just because of the players they have and City might have all the money in the world but we saw with previous managers it doesn't always turn out as good as it has with Pep.
We need to be on hand ready to pounce when those guys leave and the new managers are bedding in, that is part of why Leicester were able to win the league - they pounced at the perfect time when some clubs were in transition periods. That year City had Pellegrini as coach knowing full well Guardiola would be coming in, United were managed by van Gaal and still picking up the pieces from Fergie, Liverpool started the season with Rodgers already half-sacked and was gone by October, Chelsea of course had Mourinho but that all went remarkably wrong, Wenger was well past his used by date and we were only just coming up with our new manager in his second season. There will come a point when this City and Liverpool monopoly is over and we can challenge again and we have to make sure we are primed and ready for that time.
The manager with the magic wand is one in a million so all this talk of naming names based on their last decade is total bollocks for if he was that man he would have done it already.
The buck stops with the players and their desire - if they have none it’s not going to happen so stop pretending you know how to or know someone that knows how to inspire multi- millionaire twenty five year olds that play sport for a living!
Poch couldn’t win the Champo mate.....
Kind of the point here.
You’re still talking as if losing the CL final is an accomplishment. It’s fucking embarrassing
Don't think it's gonna happen this time.....
Thats the attitude we need there mate, bide our time until city and liverpool hopefully drop off and their managers leave then pounce like we did when EVERY top team was shite and Leicester won it ahead of us.
It's being realistic, there is no chance we are getting close to City and Liverpool at the moment - they are the two best teams in the world right now and this squad is miles away from both of those sides. What would sacking Poch achieve? We are shit at the moment but we will still get top 4 (I think so anyway). So if we are sacking him what is the purpose?
Was he really sought after for years?!
Defo Zaha was sought after
Never heard of him until this summer, I have heard of Mpabe.
Apparently he was excellent against city at the etihad CL match and that’s only one match
I wouldn’t have gone for him based on his physique not suited for pl
Better of signing Maddison or even Zaha or any other PL try and tested player for less than 64M
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I never advocated sacking Poch and I don't think we should or will but hoping that two rich well backed sides with the best two managers in world football will drop off or lose their managers so we can have a stab at winning a title is pathetic if we really want to be a top team.
Yes, we are miles behind them-last year was the first time we finished below liverpool in 6 years tho and city have been untouchable for two years but if we don't have the stomach, manager or players to challenge them head on wtf is the point in even watching football any more? We have and have had a hugely talented bunch of players for years now and consistently been top four so why can't we have a go at them from this platform after signing three of Poch real targets this summer??
I have abstained for this poll.
ENIC and Levy have poor record in hiring and firing managers. Even worse for trophies.
Poch has been excellent and lucky too. He is in love with himself.
It has been disastrous PL results in 2019
How much is the financial loss on missing CL place? Weigh it and that will decide the action Levy will take.
For the next weeks I want Poch to stay and sort the mess.
If he is to leave, I want to see him being brave decent and resign.
PS. He wants to leave based on his conflicting news conferences.
PS2. I am getting used to the football of the 90s
ENIC and Levy have poor record in hiring and firing managers. Even worse for trophies.
Poch has been excellent and lucky too. He is in love with himself.
It has been disastrous PL results in 2019
How much is the financial loss on missing CL place? Weigh it and that will decide the action Levy will take.
For the next weeks I want Poch to stay and sort the mess.
If he is to leave, I want to see him being brave decent and resign.
PS. He wants to leave based on his conflicting news conferences.
PS2. I am getting used to the football of the 90s
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If your IQ is so low that you couldn't figure out that I was just bashing Thomas' pushy agenda then there's not much left to discuss with you.
His “pushy agenda” is spot on.
Why ignore last summer? I have supported John on a number of points about last season, the facts are clear to see if you open your eyes and look.
For instance the state of the squad and the mentality right now. Which Poch himself is questioning.
But yeah it’s an agenda.......
So painful to see in black and white, but I can't disagree with anything stated.
Careful Mrs P, siding with me could have grace consequences for you unblemished reputation here.
But deep down we all know the hotties love a bad boy
