Has Conte Been Sacked Yet?

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When is Conte sacked?

  • Tonight

    Votes: 26 12.3%
  • Tomorrow

    Votes: 63 29.9%
  • Next week

    Votes: 33 15.6%
  • Week of Everton game

    Votes: 6 2.8%
  • Is still in charge against Everton

    Votes: 83 39.3%

  • Total voters
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Sickening.

Jose was sacked in the week leading up to a cup final.

Conte has checked out. His comments on more than one occasion have publicly embarrassed
the Club we love.

Whether or not there is merit in his comments, is moot. They should be kept in house.

His treatment of players such as Gill, Spence etc, and his rigid team selection makes this untenable.

He got us to top 4 last year, but if in charge he will not this year. His heart and passion is elsewhere.

I was hopeful at the start that this may work, but it's clear now the Club should pull the trigger.
 
Evidently Chick King Town

The fucking cops are fucking keen
To fucking keep it fucking clean
The fucking chief’s a fucking swine
Who fucking draws a fucking line
At fucking fun and fucking games
The fucking kids he fucking blames
Are nowhere to be fucking found
Anywhere in Chickentown

The fucking scene is fucking sad
The fucking news is fucking bad
The fucking weed is fucking turf
The fucking speed is fucking surf
The fucking folks are fucking daft
Don’t make me fucking laugh
It fucking hurts to look around
Everywhere in Chickentown

The fucking train is fucking late
You fucking wait you fucking wait
You’re fucking lost and fucking found
Stuck in fucking Chickentown

The fucking view is fucking vile
For fucking miles and fucking miles
The fucking babies fucking cry
The fucking flowers fucking die
The fucking food is fucking muck
The fucking drains are fucking fucked
The colour scheme is fucking brown
Everywhere in Chickentown

The fucking pubs are fucking dull
The fucking clubs are fucking full
Of fucking girls and fucking guys
With fucking murder in their eyes
A fucking bloke is fucking stabbed
Waiting for a fucking cab
You fucking stay at fucking home
The fucking neighbors fucking moan
Keep the fucking racket down
This is fucking Chickentown

The fucking train is fucking late
You fucking wait you fucking wait
You’re fucking lost and fucking found
Stuck in fucking Chickentown

The fucking pies are fucking old
The fucking chips are fucking cold
The fucking beer is fucking flat
The fucking flats have fucking rats
The fucking clocks are fucking wrong
The fucking days are fucking long
It fucking gets you fucking down
Evidently Chickentown
Haha, yeah!

Makes life like a fairy tale,
- - - - Grim
 
My guess is that they want the replacement done and dusted so we don't get another Nuno scenario.
You're probably right, however, whether we like it or not, we all know who is coming in next... don't we?

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I said a few weeks ago that we should have been putting a contract in front of Kane while the mood was high. Beat City, Spam, Chelsea, broke the club scoring record, merrily in 4th but people seemed fine that we were apparently going to spend time on Diers fucking contract. A player who needs replacing.

Since that happened, we've gone out of 2 cups, lost a league game and the coach is hopefully hours away from being sacked.

That window of opportunity I spoke of has gone. We could maybe have played on Kanes emotions to get him to sign.
Not now.
 
So I guess we all gotta hope we lose this weekend?
Perversely, it may be that taking Kulu off for Sanchez turns out to be the best decision Conte made, in that it might finally have removed the blinkers from the players' eyes. Richarlison and Kane's post-match comments suggest he's lost or is losing the dressing room — hard to imagine either would have spoken in those terms if their views weren't also widely-held amongst the rest of squad. I wouldn't be surprised if the players take matters into their own hands and we see a different type of performance from the team from now on, whether Conte's in the dugout or not.
 
I think they don't know what to do.

But if Levy and ENIC get a load of abuse on Saturday, whatever the result, I expect he will turn to Poch to get the pressure off his back. A cowardly move but one that will be made if he panics.
I think that everyone knows that Conte cannot go on. But based on some of the reports, there are divides within the board about who should replace him. Some (Levy among them) want Poch. Whilst other people want someone new.

They'll have to decide on a way forward before ending Conte. And the rational part in me can understand that. Even if my more emotional side just want him out already.
 

Don't do it, Poch! A Spurs comeback could end in tears​

That reappointing their former manager is under consideration is a damning indictment on how Tottenham have operated since he left
JAMIE CARRAGHER in todays DT

Paris Saint-Germain's Argentinian head coach Mauricio Pochettino gives a press conference during the spring training camp in Qatar's capital Doha on May 15, 2022

Could Spurs be searching for a new manager? CREDIT: Getty Images/Karim Jaafar

Never go back. That is what they say in football. Mauricio Pochettino would be wise to remember that if he is tempted to return to Tottenham Hotspur. Don’t do it, Poch. All parties need to move on. Comebacks are usually more romantic than logical.
Pochettino may see Spurs as the best chance to return to the Premier League. Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy could curry favour with the supporters by re-appointing a popular ex-manager. They must know how rarely old magic is recreated in football.
There are recent examples where reunions have worked. Look at Carlo Ancelotti at Real Madrid, a Champions League winner again. Jose Mourinho returned to Chelsea and won the Premier League, although it was a short-lived return. But Real Madrid and Chelsea are clubs built to win. Whoever is the coach in Madrid has a great chance to be instantly successful, and Chelsea won or competed for trophies every year in the Roman Abramovich era.
So Ancelotti and Mourinho are exceptions in replicating previous triumphs. As a young Everton supporter I remember Howard Kendall returning to Goodison Park in 1990. It was never the same. I see Massimiliano Allegri at Juventus struggling in his second stint in Turin.
Louis van Gaal failed after returning to Barcelona, and even one of the all-time greats, Arrigo Sacchi, will not dwell on his unhappy AC Milan comeback.
Pochettino returning to Spurs would be like Kevin Keegan going back to Newcastle United. Like Keegan’s Newcastle in the mid-Nineties, Pochettino’s Tottenham charmed neutrals without winning trophies. Keegan’s re-appointment in 2008 was greeted like the second coming, but he walked into different conditions and was gone eight months later.
Levy made a misguided and expensive decision sacking Pochettino. I described it as ‘out of order’ at the time.

Conte will surely leave Spurs and so might Harry Kane​

I loved watching Pochettino’s first Tottenham side, and have always admired him. The manager deserved more help when he was one or two elite players short of winning the biggest titles between 2016–2019. Spurs didn’t make a signing in the two of the three transfer windows preceding his departure. He built a team around a young Harry Kane, and takes some credit for helping the England captain to become the striker he is. Inheriting Kane at the end of his career – when he must be considering his future – would be a tougher challenge. Whoever takes over at Spurs will surely be overseeing Kane’s exit.
Kane toyed with leaving two years ago. He was in danger of damaging his legacy by forcing his way out to Manchester City. It will be a different story this time. He has been let down by the promise of his club competing for trophies. If Manchester United bid anywhere between £80-100 million, it makes sense to sell, otherwise he will leave for free at the end of his contract. Kane turns 30 this summer. He is no longer Spurs’ future.
Nor is Antonio Conte, his time nearly up. Just as with Mourinho, Conte’s style of football is such that support is conditional on winning. The era of big clubs accepting pragmatic football without trophies is over. The fanbase demands more. Where I am torn is on whether the blame for Spurs’ predicament is Conte’s or those above him. My conclusion is both.
Levy knew his post-Pochettino managerial appointments would bring a radical tactical change. After Mourinho left in 2021, Levy said this: "We are acutely aware of the need to select someone whose values reflect those of our great club and return to playing football with the style for which we are known – free-flowing, attacking and entertaining.”

He then recruited Nuno Espirito Santo, who was arguably more defensive then Mourinho, and then Conte, who has never been a club builder and was always going to demand the tools to compete for titles, not accept finishing fourth as the priority. There was going to be an explosion sooner rather than later because the modern Spurs are not built to win championships.

It is not correct that Conte has not been backed by the Spurs board​

I have some sympathy for Conte because to pip Woolwich to the fourth Champions League spot in his first season was a considerable achievement, and there is a chance he will knock Liverpool out of a Champions League spot this time. Given Spurs’ recent history, is their ceiling any higher than that? Where does the idea they ‘must qualify for the Champions League’ come from? When we talk about the ‘top six’, Spurs should currently be sixth.
What I will not buy is the argument that Levy and the Spurs board have failed to back Conte manager since appointing him.
Spurs went into pre-season having just finished above Woolwich. Then they paid £60 million for Richarlison, the man who plays No 9 for Brazil, to be a back-up striker. Woolwich bought his international understudy Gabriel Jesus for £45 million. Who made the smarter purchase? Spurs have fallen way behind Woolwich because of poor football decisions and erratic performances, not lack of investment.
Conte also signed Yves Bissouma and Ivan Perišić as part of a £172 million spree, the third highest in the Premier League last summer. In the previous window he signed Rodrigo Bentancur and Dejan Kulusevski, both excellent additions. Last January they committed £39 million by bringing in Pedro Porro on loan with an obligation to buy.
However it is dressed up, that is solid backing by the Spurs board. Enough to demand competing for the Premier League in Conte's first full season? No, but certainly enough to anticipate more consistency and a sense the team was growing and could challenge in the domestic cups.

Spurs' meek exits from cups are equally damning​

Although the performance to AC Milan was shockingly poor, it is Spurs’ exit from domestic cup competitions which are most damning. It is unforgivable that the FA Cup runs have ended in such meek exits, defeats against Championship clubs Sheffield United and Middlesbrough accounting for Spurs’ last two eliminations. They were also beaten by Nottingham Forest in the Carabao Cup. Those are the nights when fans lose faith and patience. It is one thing to argue about needing the tools to compete with Manchester City over 38 games, but another to keep losing winnable cup ties.
The relationship will come to a natural end with Conte’s contract. On a personal level he has endured a difficult few months, tragically losing close friends and suffering illness and looks like he would benefit from a break. We should never overlook the human side of this story.
Now Spurs must look to the future with their replacement, seeking a coach who will deliver on Levy’s promise to play with the style supporters crave. When you see the impact of Roberto de Zerbi at Brighton, there are obvious echoes of Pochettino at Southampton: a young, hungry coach making an instant impact with an exciting brand of football.
The fact reappointing Pochettino is under consideration is a damning indictment on how Spurs have operated since he left. Going back would be an acknowledgement of the mistake sacking him. He would have to restart in north London, and every setback would inevitably lead to comparisons to when he initially took over.
It is with a heavy heart that I cannot see how Pochettino can represent Tottenham’s future when he is a symbol of the ‘what might have been’ in the past.
 
I think that everyone knows that Conte cannot go on. But based on some of the reports, there are divides within the board about who should replace him. Some (Levy among them) want Poch. Whilst other people want someone new.

They'll have to decide on a way forward before ending Conte. And the rational part in me can understand that. Even if my more emotional side just want him out already.

I don't actually care who replaces him. He's sabotaging the team so get rid right now.
Everyone can see that playing Son is hurting the team. Everyone can see we have other attackers rotting on the bench. Everyone could see Lloris was a shell of himself. Everyone can see there are times where 343 ain't working. Everyone can see changes need to be made before the 80th fucking minute. Everyone can see Lucas Moura has done fuck all since Ajax FOUR years ago and shouldn't be in our matchday squad.
You could literally pull a fan out of the crowd and they'd probably know all of these issues and try to do something about it.
 
I said a few weeks ago that we should have been putting a contract in front of Kane while the mood was high. Beat City, Spam, Chelsea, broke the club scoring record, merrily in 4th but people seemed fine that we were apparently going to spend time on Diers fucking contract. A player who needs replacing.

Since that happened, we've gone out of 2 cups, lost a league game and the coach is hopefully hours away from being sacked.

That window of opportunity I spoke of has gone. We could maybe have played on Kanes emotions to get him to sign.
Not now.
Perhaps Levy's got a gentleman's agreement with Kane's agent?
 
Perhaps Levy's got a gentleman's agreement with Kane's agent?
Possibly - not that Levy is a gentleman

I was saying that more in response to media stories that were doing the rounds saying we were working on a new deal for Dier now and when that's sorted, we'd move on to Kane.
Waiting to sort Kane out is like waiting for your chance with a hot girl. She won't be available for very long.
 

Don't do it, Poch! A Spurs comeback could end in tears​

That reappointing their former manager is under consideration is a damning indictment on how Tottenham have operated since he left
JAMIE CARRAGHER in todays DT

Paris Saint-Germain's Argentinian head coach Mauricio Pochettino gives a press conference during the spring training camp in Qatar's capital Doha on May 15, 2022's Argentinian head coach Mauricio Pochettino gives a press conference during the spring training camp in Qatar's capital Doha on May 15, 2022

Could Spurs be searching for a new manager? CREDIT: Getty Images/Karim Jaafar

Never go back. That is what they say in football. Mauricio Pochettino would be wise to remember that if he is tempted to return to Tottenham Hotspur. Don’t do it, Poch. All parties need to move on. Comebacks are usually more romantic than logical.
Pochettino may see Spurs as the best chance to return to the Premier League. Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy could curry favour with the supporters by re-appointing a popular ex-manager. They must know how rarely old magic is recreated in football.
There are recent examples where reunions have worked. Look at Carlo Ancelotti at Real Madrid, a Champions League winner again. Jose Mourinho returned to Chelsea and won the Premier League, although it was a short-lived return. But Real Madrid and Chelsea are clubs built to win. Whoever is the coach in Madrid has a great chance to be instantly successful, and Chelsea won or competed for trophies every year in the Roman Abramovich era.
So Ancelotti and Mourinho are exceptions in replicating previous triumphs. As a young Everton supporter I remember Howard Kendall returning to Goodison Park in 1990. It was never the same. I see Massimiliano Allegri at Juventus struggling in his second stint in Turin.
Louis van Gaal failed after returning to Barcelona, and even one of the all-time greats, Arrigo Sacchi, will not dwell on his unhappy AC Milan comeback.
Pochettino returning to Spurs would be like Kevin Keegan going back to Newcastle United. Like Keegan’s Newcastle in the mid-Nineties, Pochettino’s Tottenham charmed neutrals without winning trophies. Keegan’s re-appointment in 2008 was greeted like the second coming, but he walked into different conditions and was gone eight months later.
Levy made a misguided and expensive decision sacking Pochettino. I described it as ‘out of order’ at the time.

Conte will surely leave Spurs and so might Harry Kane​

I loved watching Pochettino’s first Tottenham side, and have always admired him. The manager deserved more help when he was one or two elite players short of winning the biggest titles between 2016–2019. Spurs didn’t make a signing in the two of the three transfer windows preceding his departure. He built a team around a young Harry Kane, and takes some credit for helping the England captain to become the striker he is. Inheriting Kane at the end of his career – when he must be considering his future – would be a tougher challenge. Whoever takes over at Spurs will surely be overseeing Kane’s exit.
Kane toyed with leaving two years ago. He was in danger of damaging his legacy by forcing his way out to Manchester City. It will be a different story this time. He has been let down by the promise of his club competing for trophies. If Manchester United bid anywhere between £80-100 million, it makes sense to sell, otherwise he will leave for free at the end of his contract. Kane turns 30 this summer. He is no longer Spurs’ future.
Nor is Antonio Conte, his time nearly up. Just as with Mourinho, Conte’s style of football is such that support is conditional on winning. The era of big clubs accepting pragmatic football without trophies is over. The fanbase demands more. Where I am torn is on whether the blame for Spurs’ predicament is Conte’s or those above him. My conclusion is both.
Levy knew his post-Pochettino managerial appointments would bring a radical tactical change. After Mourinho left in 2021, Levy said this: "We are acutely aware of the need to select someone whose values reflect those of our great club and return to playing football with the style for which we are known – free-flowing, attacking and entertaining.”

He then recruited Nuno Espirito Santo, who was arguably more defensive then Mourinho, and then Conte, who has never been a club builder and was always going to demand the tools to compete for titles, not accept finishing fourth as the priority. There was going to be an explosion sooner rather than later because the modern Spurs are not built to win championships.

It is not correct that Conte has not been backed by the Spurs board​

I have some sympathy for Conte because to pip Woolwich to the fourth Champions League spot in his first season was a considerable achievement, and there is a chance he will knock Liverpool out of a Champions League spot this time. Given Spurs’ recent history, is their ceiling any higher than that? Where does the idea they ‘must qualify for the Champions League’ come from? When we talk about the ‘top six’, Spurs should currently be sixth.
What I will not buy is the argument that Levy and the Spurs board have failed to back Conte manager since appointing him.
Spurs went into pre-season having just finished above Woolwich. Then they paid £60 million for Richarlison, the man who plays No 9 for Brazil, to be a back-up striker. Woolwich bought his international understudy Gabriel Jesus for £45 million. Who made the smarter purchase? Spurs have fallen way behind Woolwich because of poor football decisions and erratic performances, not lack of investment.
Conte also signed Yves Bissouma and Ivan Perišić as part of a £172 million spree, the third highest in the Premier League last summer. In the previous window he signed Rodrigo Bentancur and Dejan Kulusevski, both excellent additions. Last January they committed £39 million by bringing in Pedro Porro on loan with an obligation to buy.
However it is dressed up, that is solid backing by the Spurs board. Enough to demand competing for the Premier League in Conte's first full season? No, but certainly enough to anticipate more consistency and a sense the team was growing and could challenge in the domestic cups.

Spurs' meek exits from cups are equally damning​

Although the performance to AC Milan was shockingly poor, it is Spurs’ exit from domestic cup competitions which are most damning. It is unforgivable that the FA Cup runs have ended in such meek exits, defeats against Championship clubs Sheffield United and Middlesbrough accounting for Spurs’ last two eliminations. They were also beaten by Nottingham Forest in the Carabao Cup. Those are the nights when fans lose faith and patience. It is one thing to argue about needing the tools to compete with Manchester City over 38 games, but another to keep losing winnable cup ties.
The relationship will come to a natural end with Conte’s contract. On a personal level he has endured a difficult few months, tragically losing close friends and suffering illness and looks like he would benefit from a break. We should never overlook the human side of this story.
Now Spurs must look to the future with their replacement, seeking a coach who will deliver on Levy’s promise to play with the style supporters crave. When you see the impact of Roberto de Zerbi at Brighton, there are obvious echoes of Pochettino at Southampton: a young, hungry coach making an instant impact with an exciting brand of football.
The fact reappointing Pochettino is under consideration is a damning indictment on how Spurs have operated since he left. Going back would be an acknowledgement of the mistake sacking him. He would have to restart in north London, and every setback would inevitably lead to comparisons to when he initially took over.
It is with a heavy heart that I cannot see how Pochettino can represent Tottenham’s future when he is a symbol of the ‘what might have been’ in the past.
Jamie Carragher spits at kids.

His opinion means absolutely fuck all.
 
The bald cunt is dead to me now...

BOTH of them!at least Levy OWNS his baldness.....
Conte is like some megalomaniac cunt who wants everyone to tell him what great hair he has...

WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE BALD..... YOU HAVE BEEN SINCE THE 90's... STOP TRYING TO PRETEND TO THE WORLD.... NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

NO AMOUNT OF HAIR WEAVE IS GONNA REPLACE THE TRUTH....
YOU'RE BALD, GET OVER IT.
Stop pretending to be a good coach too
 
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