We played loads of crap sides in the cups, that's why. You can only judge a managers stats over a period of about 3 years, and as our managers don't get that long, I wouldn't bother. I for one am pleased he has gone, albeit Mo Po doesn't appear to be the man either. I would have given Sherwood a bit longer.
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Mixed feelings on your post. While I will always back AVB over the Moutinho farce, I cant symapthise over the Baldini issues.
"I have worked with one (DoF) at Porto and Academica and had no issues with that and I certainly promote that,"
"In the end the structure that surrounds the football club is down to the chairman.
"It is not up to me to decide, it's up to the chairman. There are discussions and talks but in the end it is a club decision"
"I certainly think he is looking to further evolve in terms of the structure that surrounds the club."
AVB
You cant welcome and "promote" the arrival of a DoF as "evolving" the club, then complain that you didnt want the players. He clearly states he worked with one at two clubs. He should accept how it works and the risks involved with that Im afraid.
Weird that in the same interview he goes on to say:
"If you reflect at this moment we have Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Younes Kaboul, Scott Parker, Luka Modric, Emmanuel Adebayor, and Rafael van der Vaart all out of this team, so this team has nothing to do with last year's team,"
"It is about getting acquainted with each other now."
Three of those players are still on our books
I believe that Poch is the one, really like the guy. Although I must admit, that only 1 win in the last 7 games is bad. Over the past few seasons, we've taken a step backwards, but I truly believe that Poch is the one to take this club forward. I hope that Levy backs Poch in the transfer market, unlike what he did with AVB...
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Well at least the people who think AVB was "gone too soon" will back Poch for, at the very least, 18 months.
No matter what. That you can be sure of...
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You are of course entitled to your opinion, I just can't understand why you like him. I sometimes think people get carried away with a managers persona, and perceived personality, rather than what happens on the pitch. The fact is that we aren't winning games, and the football is painful to watch. Levy appears to have replaced AVB, with AVB mk2
I never got the chance but I would like to thank you Andre. His football was so boring I got to know the people who sat around me. For years I have waved and nodded to the same old faces but never spoken to them. Last year with nothing happening on the pitch and the fans sat in silence I got to talk to all of them. Got to know there names, if they had kids and how long they have supported Spurs.
Thanks Andre.
Thanks Andre.
Early days for sure - criticism and concerns are perfectly valid but calling for his head? Will achieve nothing as ENIC's entire tenure would prove over the years.
I haven't wanted any of our managers gone (bar Sherwood and Juande) since the Jol days, and felt the same way about AVB. He clearly had a great understanding of the game and was a very intelligent bloke, was just a bit too stubborn in his ways. I reckon in 10/15 years time he will be the 'big thing' in world football.
Some of my favourite moments were under him, the 3-1 vs City, 3-2 vs West Ham, Bale hattrick game vs Villa. I genuinely think the media were so hell bent to get him that he swayed a lot of the fans opinions.
Some of my favourite moments were under him, the 3-1 vs City, 3-2 vs West Ham, Bale hattrick game vs Villa. I genuinely think the media were so hell bent to get him that he swayed a lot of the fans opinions.
my guess is that in 10/15 years time he will be doing match analysis for europa league games on portuguese TV. By then he will have been rumbled everywhere.
Or living in a cardboard box under a railway arch in Clapham
or wearing make up and spandex hot pants in the cell of an 18 stone prisoner on death row.
Or living in a cardboard box under a railway arch in Clapham
or wearing make up and spandex hot pants in the cell of an 18 stone prisoner on death row.
I voted he should have been given more time. Because this is the case with all our managers in the last 2 decades bar the disaster that was Ramos' second season.
Yeah I agree with you about the above and don't think AVB was right for the job at all. My Baldini comment was meant more as a general dig that he really hasn't covered himself in any glory either. Levy has stuck by him, whereas AVB seemed an appointment with far more obvious risks that were clear to most yet he did it anyway, then sacked him and dropped us in it with no plan b. Although we would've probably all died of boredom, I think we may have finished 6th with him in charge anyway without all the circus.
Move on.
He's doing well in Russia? Woop de fucking do
He's doing well in Russia? Woop de fucking do
As much as I liked AVB, I think back to the reasons he left (stubbornness) and the reasons it didn't work at Chelsea (stubbornness) and have concluded it was probably a bit of a naive appointment from Levy.
AVB = Football manager Rainman
I don't think AVB understood what made Porto's offense work, and was completely unable to replicate that at Chelsea, hence his quest for those Porto players at Spurs. Gareth Bale masked his underlying cluelessness about shot quality, which became apparent when he introduced an unacquainted group of players to each other, with a striker reliant on service in a system which encouraged shooting from anywhere (witness Andros Townsend).
He was the wrong choice, but talked a good game, and it was only in hindsight that his flaws become apparent.
He was the wrong choice, but talked a good game, and it was only in hindsight that his flaws become apparent.
The thing about doing well at Zenit and Porto is that a manager should do well at those clubs. Zenit has spent so much more money putting their team together and AVBs Porto side that he inherited has some of the best players in the world in Moutinho, Hulk, and Falcao. Put those players up against a lower level Russian or Portuguese side and the gulf in talent is immense.
We need a manager that is able to develop players and take a team to a new level. I don't think AVB is that guy but I'm really excited for Poch because he has a great record of doing just that. He's shown he can take Soton to a new level and now he can hopefully do the same for us. The fact that his tactics are 1000 times more attractive than AVBs make me happy that the AVB is gone.
We need a manager that is able to develop players and take a team to a new level. I don't think AVB is that guy but I'm really excited for Poch because he has a great record of doing just that. He's shown he can take Soton to a new level and now he can hopefully do the same for us. The fact that his tactics are 1000 times more attractive than AVBs make me happy that the AVB is gone.
Poll says it all, irrespective of what one thought of his raincoat - not to mention the cold, hard figures
I'd imagine similar poll results for Jol would have emerged at the time, etc. Therefore the moral of the story remains - Dan, please give Dear Poch enough time to implement whatever ideas he has planned for us!
I'd imagine similar poll results for Jol would have emerged at the time, etc. Therefore the moral of the story remains - Dan, please give Dear Poch enough time to implement whatever ideas he has planned for us!