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exactly, what time you planning on getting their tonight mate? Meet you inside if you're aboutWe always have trouble abroad, this is nothing new. Just that suddenly it's right wing attacks apparently
We always have trouble abroad, this is nothing new. Just that suddenly it's right wing attacks apparently
When else have we had trouble??
exactly, what time you planning on getting their tonight mate? Meet you inside if you're about
Most recently, aside from Lazio and Lyon, probably V Sevilla and V Shakhtar Donetsk? I'm sure you're more aware than me
I'm seeing a lot of 'one or the other'. Can't it be both.
Lyon ultras who happen to be pretty right wing
Seville was solely police and the same with Madrid.
A few issues in Eindhoven and Prague second time around but other than that very little considering the amount of games we've had.
Agreed but regardless of what trouble we personally may have caused, we have quite often been involved (at fault or not) in incidents abroad, maybe giving other firms another incentive to get at us. And we're all stereotyped as 'English hooligans' by foreign firms
This is a fair point and I think the Rome incident was reported Europe wide and I reckon a lot of firms see us as a 'result'. Funny how both incidents have been in second legs isn't it??
Exactly. Although I heard a small group of Lazio got kicked to shit in the highroad in Tottenham after generally being mouthy
Agreed but regardless of what trouble we personally may have caused, we have quite often been involved (at fault or not) in incidents abroad, maybe giving other firms another incentive to get at us. And we're all stereotyped as 'English hooligans' by foreign firms
Some of these foreign ultras have no concept of the honour of a fair fight. The rules which, these days, are followed over here just don't apply. Some Italian ultras freely admit to picking off people on their own or in small groups, stabbing them and then running off. Some of them even arrive on motorbike, stab someone and drive off. They don't care who they attack. I think this is especially the case in Italy, Greece, Turkey; I wasn't aware France was so bad. Scum in my opinion.
The English are certainly not holier than thou
See the poor Pompey lad after their game against Walsall this season.
Yes I remember hearing about that. Well out of order. Generally, though, I think it is better over here. That sort of thing is widely condemned by English firms, whilst I get the feeling (could be wrong) the same can't be said for what Lazio did, for example. There certainly seems to be more incidents of that nature on the Continent.
Cheers for comments TRS.You're right Greavesy and that is the general consensus for the mass majority of Spurs fans.
We've played in Europe for consecutive years now and not sampled this kind of labelling before. Rome was the real deal, this I am not sure about.
No, it's your reply that doesn't compute. You're sounding like a character from a comedy show (eg the Jewish Sacha Baron Cohen) who used to go round pretending he was black and saying, 'is it cos I's black?'
Or in another show I saw, a bloke demanding he be treated as a woman, when he hadn't had surgery, wasn't cross dressing whatever, he was claiming his 'human right' to be any sex he pleased.
Again no problem with that as the Doors sang 'people are strange', and there's nothing with that either, as long as the person isn't going round shooting people, etc.
Because you're making a completely false analogy that's why. I've already explained this at least twiceI have no idea why my premise of "woman in miniskirts doesn't deserve rape" can provoce that answer from yourself.