ZoC said:"heathen" also means "unenlightened", "uncivilised" and "barbaric" and u are clearly none of these.
![gio :gio: :gio:](https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/styles/default/thefightingcock/xenforo/smilies/gio.png)
![ROTFLMAO :roflmao: :roflmao:](https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/styles/default/thefightingcock/xenforo/smilies/roflmao.png)
![Disdain :disdain: :disdain:](https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/styles/default/thefightingcock/xenforo/smilies/y_disdain.gif)
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
ZoC said:"heathen" also means "unenlightened", "uncivilised" and "barbaric" and u are clearly none of these.
That's an interesting question actually. I don't personally see the word Jew in of itself as offensive in any way. I use it myself. It's used quite acceptably in the mainstream, include in the media and literature.sammyspurs said:The thing is, Im sure they would ban "Jew Army" aswell.
But wheres the offending word there...?
"One of the most famous stories tells of an away game at Man City; Citizens fans began chanting "We've got foreskins, we've got foreskins, you ain't." In response, a group identified by one City supporter as "well-known Jewish Spurs fans" dropped their pants and waved their "circumsized members" as the sea of sky blue"
I think the issue with 'Jew' is because it's a noun and, as such, can be used more as a slur than the adjectival form:Smoked Salmon said:That's an interesting question actually. I don't personally see the word Jew in of itself as offensive in any way. I use it myself. It's used quite acceptably in the mainstream, include in the media and literature.
Apologies for the neg rep. Accidental while I was scrolling in the app.kosherboy said:I think everyone's going a bit off piste with this, the fact is that "yid" is offensive to some people and therefore shouldn't be used.
Being called a "Jew" (as I recently was) is also offensive, like being called a black or a gay.
When I started going regularly to Spurs the "Yids" chant made me think back to being called "Yid" at school so I was uncomfortable with it. But over time you get used to it and it seems that some supporters on here don't even know why we shout it.
It's a bit like needing to watch some crack whore getting fucked up the arse by a pig in HD to get you excited, when all it used to take was a picture of some tits on page 3. We've all got so desensitised by the word that it seems the norm being used in the context of Spurs, when to some Jewish people I know it still makes them shudder because it is a bad word no matter the context in which it is said.
Like Chris Rock once said: "under what circumstances is it ok for a white guy to say 'n*gger'?" - and I tried spelling the word but a star appeared when I submitted it. So it seems that word hasn't been reclaimed either - maybe in The Wire or to Weezy and co but never over here. Yid is just as bad a word. Where's the asterisk? There may have been an attempt to reclaim the word but there is still the backlash from racist Chelsea fans and the like 40 years on. If we stop using it now then they will forget why they sing antisemitic chants in 40 years time, just as some of our supporters have forgotten why we call ourselves the Yid Army
This would be, presumably, because the lesser of two evils is no longer evil?1882 said:compared with "Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz... Hiltler's gonna gas 'em again" and "Hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss" I think the word Yid is pretty small fry... Fucking get a grip people.... WE'RE not the far right neo-nazi bad guys here, and have nothing to be ashamed of...
How about a fifth?zin said:So a third of votes find it offensive. Not a majority but surely enough to justify it not being used? I know this is a small sample but I wouldn't want to offend a third of WHL.
Smoked Salmon said:How about a fifth?zin said:So a third of votes find it offensive. Not a majority but surely enough to justify it not being used? I know this is a small sample but I wouldn't want to offend a third of WHL.
I only do metric these days. What's that in 'real numbers'?Smoked Salmon said:How about a fifth?zin said:So a third of votes find it offensive. Not a majority but surely enough to justify it not being used? I know this is a small sample but I wouldn't want to offend a third of WHL.
kosherboy said:I think everyone's going a bit off piste with this, the fact is that "yid" is offensive to some people and therefore shouldn't be used.
Being called a "Jew" (as I recently was) is also offensive, like being called a black or a gay.
When I started going regularly to Spurs the "Yids" chant made me think back to being called "Yid" at school so I was uncomfortable with it. But over time you get used to it and it seems that some supporters on here don't even know why we shout it.
It's a bit like needing to watch some crack whore getting fucked up the arse by a pig in HD to get you excited, when all it used to take was a picture of some tits on page 3. We've all got so desensitised by the word that it seems the norm being used in the context of Spurs, when to some Jewish people I know it still makes them shudder because it is a bad word no matter the context in which it is said.
Like Chris Rock once said: "under what circumstances is it ok for a white guy to say 'n*gger'?" - and I tried spelling the word but a star appeared when I submitted it. So it seems that word hasn't been reclaimed either - maybe in The Wire or to Weezy and co but never over here. Yid is just as bad a word. Where's the asterisk? There may have been an attempt to reclaim the word but there is still the backlash from racist Chelsea fans and the like 40 years on. If we stop using it now then they will forget why they sing antisemitic chants in 40 years time, just as some of our supporters have forgotten why we call ourselves the Yid Army