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Good and bad in all walks of life, but I do think that people now are more self centred and want immediate results in everything. I just try not to let it drag me down. Having said that, there are times that I wished I supported a 'little' local team, like Hornchurch, as you can actually feel part of the club. But once you're hooked on Spurs, you're done for life!
 
Not entirely sure there has been an increase in cunts per se. I think the same breed of fan has been there pretty much throughout. But what's changed, in my view, is that the club has found itself as "nearly men" for the best part of the past decade. Right on the cusp of the step up. I think once people got a taste of the CL they started expecting it year after year and when it doesn't come by margins of a point to Woolwich, especially when a record points haul or Chelsea CL wins are thrown into the mix, they began to get frustrated and look for things to blame.

I don't think these people are cunts at all I think that's a crude word to just dismiss people in their entirety. What I think is that some fans lack the intelligence to stop, think and realise why patience and good support might still be in order. I don't think that makes them bad people. Just perhaps a big thick and easily forgetful of the past.
 
It was really enjoyable when we were shit. Or more shit.

Now, the place seems to be full to bursting of Johnny-Come-Lately type arseholes.

One thing I will say that boils my piss is the whole 'Blind Loyalty' thing that appears to have really come to the fore recently. People who will abuse anyone who dares to object to something the club are doing or dares to have a less than perfect opinion of a player/manager/coach.

Well I will put this on the table right now - Spurs have never pissed me off more than they do now.

Why? Any number of things - StubHub, Another fucking garish Red Sponsor, Ticket Pricing and stupid categories (Norwich CAT B, fuck off), and general lack of giving a fuck about the fans unless it's creaming them for more hard earned cash.

God, I love Spurs, and hurt for days and sometimes longer when we lose, but as a 'business' they are basically cunts.
 
Just as an aside you can buy Ledley's book off the Spurs site for 19 quid plus whatever they charge for delivery. I've just bought it online for 12 quid including postage. Another example of the club screwing the fans.

Same with the new shirts - 48 quid from Spurs, 42 quid elsewhere.
 
@ scotspurgav scotspurgav that's what it's about, for me - the actions of the people running the club(s).

I don't agree with the idea Spurs fans are worse than others. Top level football in England has been commercialised to hell and the crowds are different because large groups of lads in their teens/early twenties can't afford tickets. Some of you seem to think Spurs fans are worse than the scum. I don't get it. At least a Spurs fan who talks bollocks still supports the right team.

The crowd at the Lane is shite now, I agree with that 100%. But saying "Spurs fans are cunts" is misdiagnosing the problem. I don't see a way back for English football now. The clubs won't stop ripping people off every step of the way. The fans who make the most noise are largely young men who have been gentrified out of clubs like ours. Unless the club brings that demographic back, there will never be a decent atmosphere.

Spending a lot of money on a ticket to stand in Park Lane and be one of maybe three people making any noise leaves a sour taste tbh. I don't really want a day out in a family stand.
 
Just as an aside you can buy Ledley's book off the Spurs site for 19 quid plus whatever they charge for delivery. I've just bought it online for 12 quid including postage. Another example of the club screwing the fans.

Same with the new shirts - 48 quid from Spurs, 42 quid elsewhere.
The book seems.to be 19 everywhere apart from amazon, I can't see how spurs could match that.
 
Although we have our problems, I'd still say the average Spurs fan is far, far superior to the average gooner. I think SLR is right about it being largely a question of demographics, though success on the pitch is also a factor- I think our support would improve if we got relegated.
 
i dont really get the 'johnnie come lately' reasoning behind lack of vocal support in the ground. Most of the people sat round me in the park lane lower have been there for years and are some of the worst moaners and quietest singers (unless we're winning). it's often the younger people that i only occasionally see there that try to get something going, and are plainly ignored.

Having a big group of mostly younger, livelier fans sat all in the same place would improve the atmosphere no end.
 
I don't give a fuck about how old people are, just fucking sing. Too much pigeon holing. We see all ages at 1882 events, we seem to seek to seperate our fans whereas I think we should just all hold hands and sing. If people don't want to sing, fair enough, it's only an issue for me when they cunt off those who wish to sing.

As I said earlier in the thread, because a loud minority are cunts, don't mean they represent the majority.
 
i dont really get the 'johnnie come lately' reasoning behind lack of vocal support in the ground. Most of the people sat round me in the park lane lower have been there for years and are some of the worst moaners and quietest singers (unless we're winning). it's often the younger people that i only occasionally see there that try to get something going, and are plainly ignored.

Having a big group of mostly younger, livelier fans sat all in the same place would improve the atmosphere no end.

Funnily enough, I'm not particularly in either group being neither 'a young Johnny-come-lately' or a silent moaner...
Trust me, there are still some 'older' bods about who like to get an atmosphere going....

Mind you, I'm probably not THAT far off becoming one of those elderly eccentrics, covered in badges that gets an uncomfortable, sarcastic reaction when trying desperately to start a song through my missing teeth and unstable mind!
 
I don't give a fuck about how old people are, just fucking sing. Too much pigeon holing. We see all ages at 1882 events, we seem to seek to seperate our fans whereas I think we should just all hold hands and sing. If people don't want to sing, fair enough, it's only an issue for me when they cunt off those who wish to sing.

As I said earlier in the thread, because a loud minority are cunts, don't mean they represent the majority.

true. just trying to say that mr always rights of this world need to rediscover a little bit of fun in going to games.
i'm off to do some vocal exercises and gargle some honey and lemon before jumping on the train
 
true. just trying to say that mr always rights of this world need to rediscover a little bit of fun in going to games.
i'm off to do some vocal exercises and gargle some honey and lemon
before jumping on the train

"La-La-La-LAAA.... Menmenmeme..... Manymenmanymenmanymen.... "Fascinating fallopian vigorous Vaginas fascinating fallopian vigorous Vaginas"

A coupla old school vocal exercises for you to try from my Thespian days!
 
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