yeah but stats rarely tell the full story.
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If you cant see the difference between Gio and Winks then football probably isn't for you.
Sure but we want an ATM who has more than one goal and three assists in him since he joined the premier league a couple of years ago.
Hiring NES has knocked the stuffing out of me. Grave reservations about Paratici already, and the players we are being linked with, but we shall see. It does not appear that Levy has stepped back from the footballing side of things, and then there is the familiarly glacial pace of negotiations, which begs the question as to whom is doing the negotiating. Looking like a cosmetic change from where I am sitting, here in my little mudhut in Ireland.Fair enough
What's made you so disillusioned out of interest?
I don't see how GLC has done anything to help the team succeed beyond what Winks has done, that's my point. GLC has no end product, 3 assists and 1 goal in his spurs career, some of which was played as ATM.
But how often was Gio actually played as an attacking mid? I seem to remember most of his games came as a two with Hojberg.
From that position he is more of a pre-assister. See ball to Tanganga for the recent goal against Woolwich
He gives us a bit of control and tenacity in the middle which Sissoko, Winks or Dele can't.
I was actually just making the point that 90% of his highlights reel is nutmegs, I wasn't comparing him to anyone else. But, as you bring it up...
As someone else has just said, stats don't tell the full story. GLC looks usefully involved more than Deli does. GLC doesn't easily concede possession the way Deli does. GLC doesn't huff up his shoulders in a sulk, or alternatively just laugh, when he tries something and it goes wrong the way Deli does - in those situations, GLC runs back like crazy to try to atone for his error. He also presses much better. I don't completely ignore stats - that's as stupid as basing everything on them - but I do also let my eyes interpret the play as I watch (on internet I mean) the full 90 mins of every competitive game we play. And for me, even despite his continual injury set-backs, GLC has looked to me like he brings much more to the team than sub-par Deli.
I'm not anti-Deli by the way - I'd absolutely love him to get back to his best and start competing for a place in the team, and even the national team - but in the last couple of years, for me he has been a long way off that, and some way behind GLC. In my opinion of course - it's a subjective topic, you're welcome to think differently.
Did Paratici go on holiday or something?
wHeRe ARe ThE SigNiNGS?
wHeRe ARe ThE SigNiNGS?
Please scroll down on GLC's stats here... Giovani Lo Celso Statistics | Premier League
Point out what part you are impressed with?
Why are anybody suddenly slanting GLC? In his first season, unfortunately coincided with us having a shitty season, he is head and shoulders above everybody. Was really really sure he was going to be our player of the season, but somewhat overlooked and Son won it.
I guess his work is underappreciated. Just you watch. Of course if he can stay healthy.
I guess his work is underappreciated. Just you watch. Of course if he can stay healthy.
My point is that Winks Deli et al get shit with other under performers ie GLC, Ndomblele seem to get an easier ride, that's because they never did fuck all good to start with. Winks did have some good seasons so did Deli, moreso than Winks.I was actually just making the point that 90% of his highlights reel is nutmegs, I wasn't comparing him to anyone else. But, as you bring it up...
As someone else has just said, stats don't tell the full story. GLC looks usefully involved more than Deli does. GLC doesn't easily concede possession the way Deli does. GLC doesn't huff up his shoulders in a sulk, or alternatively just laugh, when he tries something and it goes wrong the way Deli does - in those situations, GLC runs back like crazy to try to atone for his error. He also presses much better. I don't completely ignore stats - that's as stupid as basing everything on them - but I do also let my eyes interpret the play as I watch (on internet I mean) the full 90 mins of every competitive game we play. And for me, even despite his continual injury set-backs, GLC has looked to me like he brings much more to the team than sub-par Deli.
I'm not anti-Deli by the way - I'd absolutely love him to get back to his best and start competing for a place in the team, and even the national team - but in the last couple of years, for me he has been a long way off that, and some way behind GLC. In my opinion of course - it's a subjective topic, you're welcome to think differently.
What has GLC or Ndombele done that is so much better?
Yes and no. He's not an Eriksen, Silva, DeBruyne type. But a fully confident Dele is as good at scoring from absolutely nothing as anyone in the league IMO. He can be on the peripheral of a game for ages where we're not getting chances and then score something out of nothing.
My issue with taking the doped clubs out is the self funded clubs become untouchable. I've said it many times, if Chelsea hadn't happened United would have won at least 10 more titles in that period.
The premier league would be as competitive as the Bundeslega where Bayern, save for a couple of blips, have won the title almost every year for decades and just strip their rivals of talent every year at will.
Trust Levy to want to scrooge out a loan deal. Maybe Atalanta will take some of the moths from his wallet in part exchange.
Levy propably tood him to fuck off after we agreed the 60M Martinez dealDid Paratici go on holiday or something?
wHeRe ARe ThE SigNiNGS?
Paratici you mean, Italian clubs well known for their use of loans with options and with an Italian DoF and the fact we are looking at players in the Italian league it's pretty obvious it's Paratici not Levy
Reservations over Romero, Gil, Gollini deals and potentially Tomiyasu/Martinez/Vlahovic?
Would take either of those Sheff Utd players
When fit Sander Berge is class he tore Spurs to pieces not long after he signed
Because he's shit, and Paratici knows it. We should look at players to upgrade the team, and I'd rather have Dier than Romagnoli.
I've already outlined to you in my above post all the things that GLC has done to be thought of by most on here as a much better player than Deli in the last 2 years.
N'dombele does not get an easy ride at all, have you actually read this forum in the last few months / 48 hours? Many want us to cut our losses and get rid. More people want to get rid of N'Dombele now than Deli. For me, I hope both of them pull their fingers out, put some proper graft and effort in, sort their heads out, and become great players for us.
Stats don't mean anything. Lo Celso enables us way more than Dele Alli. It's also why he was brilliant in Copa America, even though he didn't score or assist.
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