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And standing up in a seating section......my gawd ban 'em!
That's a derby game, it's never going to be 'peaceful' it's going to be tense, but hooligans of the 80'[s used to fight for no other reason then fighting, so every game went to shit, it's a better way forward
Shame really....Les Dennis could have been off our screens along time ago!
Five 16 year olds in a little bit of Sergio Tacchini from TK Maxx, a box of Standard fireworks and some snide Stone Island badges does not a "decent youth mob" make.
I remember when I went to Norwich for the game when Bale teared shit up. We apparently ran into their youth mob who called it on at a nightclub later that evening.
Not a single soul was seen that night...
Not a single soul was seen that night...
Mate you will never ever be in any "danger" of trouble at Norwich, trust me!
You might get a bunch of Six,s but that's about all. Or even a 6 knuckle sandwich.
whilst im not in favor of a return to the days of widespread hooliganism, i think its absence (and what this allows clubs hiercharchy/owners to do) is a major factor in why modern football atmospheres could possibly be shit...the expensive tickets, the emphasis on season ticket holders and the corporate boxes have all dislocated the 'real' fans from supporting a club that should be a representation of the tottenham community, not yuppy bandwagons seduced by our growing reputation or our 'jewishness'..
of course I have no way to prove this, but pretty confident ppl who actually live in tottenham and its surrounds are under-represented in the current crowd at WHL.
my old man litterally had to 'bleed' to support tottenham...whats the criteria these days?
if you want an example of how dangerous owners can be look no further:
http://eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pi...ithin-past-problems-return-psg-165922229.html
Banning 13 000 season ticket holders cause a qatari oil baron buys YOUR club and realises he cant jump off his boat in monaco, pick up his tyrannical oil baron friends, jump in the lambo and take them to watch his new plaything without a few scrapes and flares is FUCKING ridicoulous...its about time spurs supporters realised this is OUR club and levy/lewis can go fuck themselves if they want to change it..
of course I have no way to prove this, but pretty confident ppl who actually live in tottenham and its surrounds are under-represented in the current crowd at WHL.
my old man litterally had to 'bleed' to support tottenham...whats the criteria these days?
if you want an example of how dangerous owners can be look no further:
http://eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pi...ithin-past-problems-return-psg-165922229.html
Banning 13 000 season ticket holders cause a qatari oil baron buys YOUR club and realises he cant jump off his boat in monaco, pick up his tyrannical oil baron friends, jump in the lambo and take them to watch his new plaything without a few scrapes and flares is FUCKING ridicoulous...its about time spurs supporters realised this is OUR club and levy/lewis can go fuck themselves if they want to change it..
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Not linked - Teams like Lazio have atmosphere and hooligans yes, but Borrussia Dortmund just has atmosphere, the kind 1882 are aspiring to, all encompassing support
Hooliganism was as much politically motivated in the 80's than anything else, when anarchy was rife, it certainly creates an atmosphere, just not a good one
Hooliganism was as much politically motivated in the 80's than anything else, when anarchy was rife, it certainly creates an atmosphere, just not a good one
dortmund also has well priced tickets as well and stadium seating which is standing...
germany's clubs ownership rules mean comparisons are chalk and cheese...they are owned by the fans for the fans...no surprise their atmospheres are great
I was just saying there is no link between hooliganism and atmosphere, you are right no wonder they are all happy as larry over there!
i agree with you about there being no link...
if u read my post just above i do think however that when you have no hooligans it allows owners to do things which undermine the atmosphere further or could even be the main reason why the atmosphere's are soo shit...e..g. high ticket prices, emphasis on season ticket holders, etc
I never thought about it like that.... and in turn by acting in that manner the owners indirectly can even help produce some acts of hooliganism and violent protest in the future when supporters don't feel they are being heard
owners dont want real fans because real fans actually care about the club and generally want a say in how its run and what direction its going in...what they want is mindless yuppies that pay there 50-70 quid, buy a jersey on the way in and a beanie for their kid, moan loudly when the glamourous signings dont play well and then fuck off back home after the game...
ownsers want full control and fans for them are the enemy
I have to disagree profoundly with the idea that hooliganism in the 80s was an 'anarchist' related movement. It was people who wanted a ruck, it was people who who wanted to defend their 'manor' it was many thing it wasn't an anarchist movement. In fact you'd have got your head kicked in if you called any of the hooligans 'an anarchist'
of course you could twist the definition of anarchist sufficiently to embrace the hooligans, but it really wasn't anything to do with it.
There is a lot of truth in what you say Oz, which is one reason why I don't feel bad about not going anymore. I'm not letting the club down, it's the people who have turned the Lane into a plastic replica homage to capitalism that have done that.
They should skip 'Star Wars' and play 'Money makes the world go round' when the teams trot out at the Lane these days.
Football used to be for the working man. Not that it was a political statement of any large intent, many would be Tories, Liberals, whoever as well as Labour and Socialist, etc. What they had in common was football, it transcended politics.