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As you can read from my post, I'm not anti Levy or ENIC.
Did we win ? Was it VAR again ? I thought we drew.
There is a guy called Harry Kane to consider in all this shit show.....absolutely no service today, none at all, now the guy wants to win things at Spurs and I honestly believe he would take 1 PL title and maybe a CL title with us over 10 at Barcelona or wherever, but just important to Harry is individual accolades, he prides himself on scoring goals, ever striker should and he wants to break records, he has also been doing that, but right now he is looking like a championship player absolutely starved of chances.....It’s only a matter of time he talks to Levy and Levy needs to listen!
Kane owes us for the rubbish he served up in the CL final which we reached mainly from other players' efforts. Shutting up and putting more effort in would help right now.
No you were logical and reasonable in your view and I agree with your logic. However I was referring to the post you quoted.
A couple of things:
Player sales - What is the alternative? Walker didn't leave Spurs because of Levy, he left because of Poch and not being able to handle being 2nd fiddle to Trippier. There is potentially an argument to sell abroad but who was going to buy him and pay anywhere near £50m for him?
You could of course refuse to sell to a competitor but then you end up with an Eriksen situation where the player ends up leaving on a free and everyone gets shafted. The Walker deal looks worse with hindsight because Trippier ended up leaving and we replaced him with Aurier. If we had seen world cup Trippier over his career here and he were still here then nobody would care that we sold Walker. That falls on Poch more than anyone.
For the rest of your post, most of what you say is factual and fair but it's not necessarily a bad thing when you consider what the alternative is. The alternative could easily be Leeds or any other number of clubs that spend a fortune and have nothing to show for it (just look at Everton, every season!). Levy has built our club using a business model that is sustainable while gradually improving the squad as a whole from ENIC's early days. I've said it before in this thread that the lack of trophies should not be blamed on Levy. We've been to plenty and plenty of QFs, SFs and finals, if our players and management can't get the team over the line in those one-off matches then that is their fault.
I don't like the way that fans are taken for granted under ENIC/Levy but you only have to look a couple of miles down the road to see that the grass isn't always greener. It's not ideal having an investment company not pump their own money in but ultimately we've been given one of the best stadiums in the world, many years of steady improvement and the most expensive squad we've ever seen at Spurs. As you mention, what takes you to the very top is the oil state money but is that what we're really after?
Well that might just be on the manager for playing him.....anyhow Kane won’t put up with 1 chance a game for much longer I can guarantee you that.....
This current manager can’t fix our problems, I mean he literally played a back 7 first half today and I don’t think we had a clear cut chance against frigging Watford
Sure he can complain about just about every thing under the sun as to why we are struggling, and he can say “stay calm until January” until the cows come home, but if anyone thinks January is the answer then we are truly fucked.
I must say Pochettino has given us some of the best times in the PL era, but he’s now dishing up some of the worst, and considering the pool of players he has at his disposal, 2019 has to be seriously considered one of the worst periods in that same era....
Love Poch or hate Poch, Love Levy or hate Levy this rut needs to end, and ENIC won’t sell up over night so the only alternative is a new set of ideas at the playing end of things.
Levy isn’t blameless in all this either, new stadium, thanks mate, but it’s not your money paying for it it’s fucking our money, shirt sale after shirt sale, bottom filling pint after bottom filling pint and season ticket after ticket sale.....he has mortgaged us for the next 30 years, and that’s just down right presumptuous of him, when that all dwindles away he will fucking sell up, tourists can only do so much and when players like Son are not in the CL window anymore those groupies will find a new poster boy, they follow the player not the club.....
You are totally forgiven. It's a rough time for all of us. Enjoy your life, Joe. There's more to it than football.
Not to mention unpronounceable place names that can only be said with a mouthful of phlegm.It
It's a country very, very similar to Scotland but when the locals are drunk you can still understand what they are saying. That's about the only difference.
Now where have I heard that before?....oh yes..every week.
People seem not to understand that Levy simply doesn't care about the football side of things. To him, we're just a business.
If he was wearing a gray cashmere overcoat, it was me!
Perfectly put.
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Poch is clueless about what to do and the players aren't putting up a fight for him.
In CL I'm sure we're back to 4-4-2 end the diamond again. And against Liverpool who knows. 5-3-2 like yesterday? I'm out of hope now. Just hope Levy realises that enough is enough after the Liverpool game.
In CL I'm sure we're back to 4-4-2 end the diamond again. And against Liverpool who knows. 5-3-2 like yesterday? I'm out of hope now. Just hope Levy realises that enough is enough after the Liverpool game.
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this has been going on since Feb, its not just this season, Levy had the last 2 weeks football free to get a new manager in, but didn't
once again Levy has shown at Football Levy is completely lost, he's given Poch & his coaches a deal that makes he too hard to sack, he gave him the deal as he hoped a fish would come in and buy out the contract but who will do that now
once again Levy has shown at Football Levy is completely lost, he's given Poch & his coaches a deal that makes he too hard to sack, he gave him the deal as he hoped a fish would come in and buy out the contract but who will do that now
Some people say let's bring in a new manager then we'll see what Levy's ambition is.
ONE league cup in NINETEEN years, that tells it's own story. The era where we could have won trophies is over.
The players have failed.
Poch has failed
Levy and ENIC have failed.
Get in a new manager, might have a little spike before he realises he can't make copper into gold, gets sacked and the circle continues.
We are a successful business, with a good training ground and a good stadium. We won't go bankrupt but we won't win the league or even be a cup side like we were in the past.
ONE league cup in NINETEEN years, that tells it's own story. The era where we could have won trophies is over.
The players have failed.
Poch has failed
Levy and ENIC have failed.
Get in a new manager, might have a little spike before he realises he can't make copper into gold, gets sacked and the circle continues.
We are a successful business, with a good training ground and a good stadium. We won't go bankrupt but we won't win the league or even be a cup side like we were in the past.
% moved from 11% to 36% since the thread was opened. there's definitely a trend going on, but I suppose most of the "leavers" wouldn't want a "no deal" with Pleat as caretaker.
How can it be knee jerking for 10 months