The term "Taxi for Maicon" was coined at the home game. We won that game.
That game was also better.
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The term "Taxi for Maicon" was coined at the home game. We won that game.
That game was also better.
I am not a big fan of Wembley to be honest but expected it to be worse than it actually is..You are right last night was not great but for me the football was so good it was hard to take your concentration off the game.
For most clubs a trip to Wembley is a treat but from now on for us that treat has gone. If we get to an FA cup final or semi final it wont be anywhere near as good as it used to be.
The only reason I don't moan about the atmosphere or any negative involving Wembley is because I know it's very short term and what's on the horizon will be so amazing I can put up with it.
The home end at Wembley, the singing section, is full of mums dads and kids.
There's a pocket at the back, under the club Wembley tier, that do sing continuously but it never picks up.
Hope the home end single tier isn't the same as the Wembley designated home end.
I fear it could end up like that.
Wembley is never going to be like home. It's not.
At WHL it was only on special occasions you got the whole place in on it. Yet there were always about 6-10 k noisy in park lane and shelf
In finals etc you only get 20odd thousand tickets, but it's more vocal because at least 10000 will be noisy all game and together.
There's a pocket at the back, under the club Wembley tier, that do sing continuously but it never picks up.
Hope the home end single tier isn't the same as the Wembley designated home end.
I fear it could end up like that.
Wembley is never going to be like home. It's not.
At WHL it was only on special occasions you got the whole place in on it. Yet there were always about 6-10 k noisy in park lane and shelf
In finals etc you only get 20odd thousand tickets, but it's more vocal because at least 10000 will be noisy all game and together.
Yep, agree with that Billy. I actually get pissed off seeing fans just endlessly complain about Wembley, what's the point?
Maybe they are just disappointed about not having a fortnightly trip to that world class iconic venue in Milton keynes.....
I am not the biggest fan of Wembley to be honest,but its a means to an end.I can live with that
Mate, just think where we'll be next year.. There's one club, name escapes me at the minute, who have borrowed a ground that is 1000 times worse than Wembley, but they are stuck with it FOREVER..Now that's something to be concerned about ( for them anyway)
The name will come to me soon..
The first half we were camped deep in our half and they push on forward relentlessly they were a very good team. Second-half we seem to push onto them a little bit more (although still in our half) and gave them less freedom which demonstrates we can change our game and adapt as the game goes on. Second-half I thought we were the better team regardless of possession, we had them where we wanted them. I felt them playing with just two at the back because everyone pushed forward showed a lack of respect for us, it's not our problem they got caught.
Where I was standing the atmosphere was great - lots of singing. Even a rendition of the Park Lane Shelf Side chants! Last year I was up the other end and thought the atmosphere was crap. The size and dynamics of Wembley mean where you are has a big influence on your experience.
I completely agree with this. My ST is in block 127 which seems to be a standing and singing block. It wasn't 90 minutes of singing last night but there was SOME atmosphere and a number of different songs being sung.
In comparison, a couple of mates are the next block along in 126 and people very rarely stand or sing. On the occasions they have stood they've been shouted at to sit down. The same happened last night until the moved to the left to be a bit closer to block 127 then stood throughout.
Another mate was further down near the half way line and was surrounded by empty seats.
Can't disagree with much but especially the bit about our fans, we really didn't turn up and who did were embarrassingly quiet. There were a few bars of Maurice the manager being magical but for most of it we weren't above a murmur. Every time I got up to even applaud I was looked at like I had two heads. I know we had a torrid time at Wembley until now but we must do better as a fanbase. Not filling our ground and being outsung on a Champions League opener to above credible opponents is detestable. Credit to the Dortmund lot they made a noise
If this was Messi?
Dortmund outsung as at WHL as well, like they would against any English team. But I do agree that although I'd love to see more people getting involved at out home games, I don't want the sort of atmosphere that never reflects what is happening on the pitch.
Tactical yellow innit. If he'd been booked against Appoel he'd have missed Madrid, or against Madrid he would have missed Dortmund. As it is he gets a break against the weakest club, maybe gives young Foyth a chance, and resets the clock so he can go at the big boys.
To sum up: YIDS
My view is that it was a lucky win, but that we did also thoroughly deserve it, and we deserved it for many reasons. The most important is that we have played like BVB did on many past occasions against big teams, and particularly at Wembley, and unfortunately lost. Against Chelsea and even Burnley we hit the post at key moments and made individual defensive mistakes. Against Everton and BVB we scored from ridiculous angles and were let off defensively. In all four games there wasn't a great significant difference performance wise. There were tactical changes and changes in personnel. Crucially, we got ridiculed by the media when we dominated and lost, so it is actually even more sweet to have very intentionally won in this more humbling manner of victory.
Better wembley than the Olympic stadium
It would have been unthinkable particularly after the Harry debacle with the FA. I thought we were going back to our mid upper table default position with a revolving door of managers.
We have really kicked on though, & beating Dortmund is a huge indication of where we are now. It wasn't long ago that we were schooled home & away by this bunch. I was worried that we would never be able to compete with a team like that. But we did last night & it was no fluke.
The squad is looking very impressive & solid.
are you watching Woolwich?
The problem is the Wembley acoustics. All of the fans that want to sing are spread around and the resultant sound cancels each other out, or at best distorts the stuff being sung. The away fans are all corralled into one place, so the coordination of the singing is better and the net effect is louder and clearly audible. The Gent fans out sung us for the same reason.
The club should have a singing section (at a reduced rate) to encourage the harmonised and coherent singing and support and then the team will get a better level of backing and it won't always sound like the visitors are the only ones singing.
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That's what I was saying. That little pocket up to about 130. It was the same last CL. Always at it but it doesn't carry.