Dier>>>>>>> Chambers
I'm guessing these players are in the under 21's to a certain extent to ensure England's U21's qualify. I mean Kane and Dier must certainly be near the England squad by now.
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Dier>>>>>>> Chambers
I'm guessing these players are in the under 21's to a certain extent to ensure England's U21's qualify. I mean Kane and Dier must certainly be near the England squad by now.
I meant near this squad of England players. Look at it, a lot of the players on that team are very, very inexperienced.You are joking right?
2 games into his top flight career you are suggesting he is only not being picked for the full squad due to ensuring the U21's qualify?!?!
Get a grip guys, I am as positive about his and our start as the next man but he has only played against a very poor QPR and Wet Spam. I agree he was excellent in both but to suggest he is a shoe-in at international level is an amazing insult to the national team and far more experienced players.
I'm expecting him to play a lot less as the season develops, with Chiriches, Fazio, Naughton and Walker all preferred when fit.
Let the lad get on with his development, he is no doubt talented, don't build him up to be something he ain't. (yet)
You are joking right?
2 games into his top flight career you are suggesting he is only not being picked for the full squad due to ensuring the U21's qualify?!?!
Get a grip guys, I am as positive about his and our start as the next man but he has only played against a very poor QPR and Wet Spam. I agree he was excellent in both but to suggest he is a shoe-in at international level is an amazing insult to the national team and far more experienced players.
I'm expecting him to play a lot less as the season develops, with Chiriches, Fazio, Naughton and Walker all preferred when fit.
Let the lad get on with his development, he is no doubt talented, don't build him up to be something he ain't. (yet)
Fair enough. I do think he could develop into a future international but not until he has at least proved himself against better players. I am also very happy with what I've seen so far.I meant near this squad of England players. Look at it, a lot of the players on that team are very, very inexperienced.
I don't rate Naughton, however if we keep him then I am sure he will start over Dier as a right back after the initial buzz around him wears down.Making a lot of sense till that clanger dropped in.
I meant near this squad of England players. Look at it, a lot of the players on that team are very, very inexperienced.
I don't rate Naughton, however if we keep him then I am sure he will start over Dier as a right back after the initial buzz around him wears down.
Its not like his is going to score every week...
"He scores when he wants........"
I agree that Naughton has become a bit of a liability over the last year and has regressed since returning from Norwich, but RB isn't Dier's natural position. True he can play there and play well, however he hasn't been tested against a winger yet. Traore is absolute gash, barely started for QPR as a winger last season, they actually use him as more of a wingback/defensive cover and Wet Spam effectively played without a left winger/formation on the opening day!Every time Naughton gets on the pitch I worry, I have seen more of Dier in the last few games from an ability perspective than I ever have from Naughton. Their is the experience issue but ability also comes in to it, I really don't rate Naughton as a Spurs level player.
I've only been here around a month and obviously can only comment from that timeframe but since the start of the season the general attitude on the forum towards Rose has been predominantly positive, the performance against QPR was probably the finest he has played in a long time and arguably his best since his debut.
Glad he has been called up, hope it does wonders for his confidence.
He's played 18 games in the Junior England teams, he's 21 in january - so pretty much the same development levels as Walker when he first played for England.You are joking right?
2 games into his top flight career you are suggesting he is only not being picked for the full squad due to ensuring the U21's qualify?!?!
Get a grip guys, I am as positive about his and our start as the next man but he has only played against a very poor QPR and Wet Spam. I agree he was excellent in both but to suggest he is a shoe-in at international level is an amazing insult to the national team and far more experienced players.
I'm expecting him to play a lot less as the season develops, with Chiriches, Fazio, Naughton and Walker all preferred when fit.
Let the lad get on with his development, he is no doubt talented, don't build him up to be something he ain't. (yet)
I'd say Townsend will get in due to saving Roy's job getting them to the WC. Kane surely. If Baines is still injured Rose might get a call up. Walker will be named but Clyne will play. Dier and Mason I don't think will get a look in this timeAnyone know when Hodgson announces the squad?
I would think Kane, Mason, Dier, Walker, Rose and possibly even Townsend are in with a decent chance.
I'd say Townsend will get in due to saving Roy's job getting them to the WC. Kane surely. If Baines is still injured Rose might get a call up. Walker will be named but Clyne will play. Dier and Mason I don't think will get a look in this time
Hodgson has spoken very highly of Mason on several occasions, and we know that he's a player that a lot of ex-pro's such as Henry, Scholes, Gary Neville and a few others really appreciate. I think he's the type of player that footballing persons appreciate a bit more than your average fan. A Owen Hargeaves type of player in a squad.
Dier is a long-shot but he's been better than both Stones and Chambers by some distance this season.
Just did a quick search of the last couple of England squads and saw what midfielders actually got picked! Fabian bloody Delph, Barkley, Downing? Mason is a shoe in.Hodgson has spoken very highly of Mason on several occasions, and we know that he's a player that a lot of ex-pro's such as Henry, Scholes, Gary Neville and a few others really appreciate. I think he's the type of player that footballing persons appreciate a bit more than your average fan. A Owen Hargeaves type of player in a squad.
Dier is a long-shot but he's been better than both Stones and Chambers by some distance this season.