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Given that we've been drawn together in the league cup final, does anyone think this'll impact this game at all?
Yep we will beat them & go into the final 1-1 on results this year. Mourinho will collapse in the post match interview in a fit of rage & be unavailable to weave his "specialness" for the final, which we will win after JT heads into to his own net in the 93rd minute. If carlsberg did the next 2 months...
 
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Tottenham Hotspur host Chelsea at White Hart Lane on New Year's Day, Thursday 1st January 2015 (KO 17:30) in the 20th round of 2014-15 Premier League matches.

Spurs come into the game in 7th place on 31 points with Chelsea League leaders on 46 points. This will be the 194th time the two teams have met each other.

Chelsea are one of the few major English football teams who never played Spurs during the Victorian Era, as they were only founded in 1905 and were admitted into the Second Division of the Football League without ever having played a match before.

This was due to the rivalry that existed at the time between the Football League and the Southern League with the former desperate to make in-roads into the lucrative markets which London and the South-East provided.

The first meeting between Spurs and Chelsea was a friendly played at Stamford Bridge in February 1908 and ended in a 1-1 draw.

The same venue saw the first Football League Division One encounter in December 1909 and Chelsea won that match 2-1.

The return fixture at White Hart Lane was won by Spurs 2-1 and in between those two matches the clubs met in the old second round (today's fourth round) of the FA Cup in a match which Spurs won 1-0 at Stamford Bridge.

Spurs and Chelsea would meet for another three seasons in the First Division before the outbreak of World War One with honours even at two wins for Spurs, two wins for Chelsea and two drawn matches.

14 games were played during the First World War and these featured many players who 'guested' for both clubs. Five of Tottenham's "home" games were played at Woolwich's Highbury Stadium.

Spurs and Chelsea had finished in the bottom two places in the last season of the First Division when war broke out and when football resumed in 1919, the Division was expanded from 20 to 22 teams.

Woolwich engineered a 'promotion' to the First Division at Spurs' expense but Tottenham easilly won the Division Two Championship and the next season had two emphatic wins over Chelsea 5-0 at home and 4-0 at the Bridge.

The teams would meet for another five seasons in the First Division and two seasons in the Second Division during the inter-war period - season 1929-30 was the last time Spurs & Chelsea played League games outside the Top Flight of English Football.

Spurs only lost two of those 14 League matches.

During World War Two, 16 games were played between Spurs and Chelsea

Spurs returned to the First Division in season 1950-51 and did the 'double' over Chelsea winning 2-0 away and 2-1 at home on their way to the first Football League Championship.

Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea contested the first all-London FA Cup Final in 1967 at Wembley with Spurs winning 2-1 thanks to goals scored by Jimmy Robertson and Frank Saul.

The first meeting in the Football League Cup came in the 1971-72 Semi-Finals with Chelsea winning the first leg at Stamford Bridge 3-2 and Spurs only managing a 2-2 draw at White Hart Lane.

Both clubs were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and both have been ever-present for the 23 seasons of the competition, along with Woolwich, Aston Villa, Everton, Liverpool and Manchester United. Chelsea have very much had the upper hand during the Premier League Era with 25 wins to Tottenham's 3 with the remaining 15 matches drawn.

A second domestic Cup Final was contested in 2008 when Spurs beat Chelsea in the Football League (Carling) Cup Final 2-1 after extra time at Wembley. A Dimitar Berbatov penalty and a Jonathan Woodgate header ensured the silverware would once again reside in North London.

The 2010-11 fixture in December at White Hart Lane resulted in a 1-1 draw with Roman Pavlyuchenko scoring for Spurs after 15 minutes and Didier Drogba getting Chelsea's equaliser after 70 minutes. Drogba's injury time penalty was saved by Heurelho Gomes.

The reverse fixture at Stamford Bridge in April was won by Chelsea 2-1 with Spurs taking a 19th minute lead through Sandro and Frank Lampard equalising on half time. Salomon Kalou scored the winner after 89 minutes.

The 2011-12 match at White Hart Lane in December resulted in a 1-1 draw with Emmanuel Adebayor putting Spurs ahead after 8 minutes and Chelsea's Daniel Sturridge getting the equaliser in the 23rd minute. The game at Stamford Bridge in March ended in a goalless draw.

Chelsea won the 2012 FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley 5-1 with the turning-point coming from a 49th minute Juan Mata goal which never crossed the line. Didier Drogba had put the Blues ahead just before the interval and Spurs managed to pull a goal back in the 56th minute through Gareth Bale. Three further goals from Ramares, Lampard and Malouda were added for Chelsea.

Andre Villas-Boas was sacked as Chelsea's manager in March 2012 and became the manager of Tottenham Hotspur on 3rd July 2012. The match at White Hart Lane in October 2012 was won by Chelsea 4-2. A Gary Cahill volly after 17 minutes was the only goal of the first half and Spurs went ahead with goals from William Gallas and Jermain Defoe. A brace from Juan Mata and a Daniel Sturridge goal gave Chelsea the three points.

The teams drew 2-2 at Stamford Bridge in May 2013 with Oscar opening the scoring after 10 minutes and Emmanuel Adebayor getting the equaliser after 26 minutes. Ramires put Chelsea ahead again after 39 minutes but Gylfi Sigurdsson scored 10 minutes from the end.

Sigurdsson scored again in the 19th minute at White Hart Lane in September 2013 to put Spurs 1-0 ahead of Chelsea but John Terry equalised for the Blues after 65 minutes to ensure the points were shared. Chelsea ran-out 4-0 winners in the game at Stamford Bridge in March 2014 with goals from Samuel Eto'o, Eden Hazard and a brace from Demba Ba.

Chelsea won the Premier League match in December 2014 at Stamford Bridge 3-0 with goals from Eden Hazard, Didier Drogba and Loic Remy.

Overall, Spurs have won 68, Chelsea have won 76 and 49 of the 193 matches between the two clubs have been drawn.


Clive Allen
Les Allen

Jimmy Armstrong
Frank Arnesen (Director of Football both clubs)
Eddie Bailey
Ted Birnie
Danny Blanchflower (Spurs player, Chelsea manager)
Derek Brazil
Johnny Brooks
Bill Cartwright
Sid Castle
David Copeland
Carlo Cudicini
Jason Cundy
Kerry Dixon
Gordon Durie
Mark Falco
William Gallas

Lee Gardner
George Graham (Chelsea player, Spurs manager)
Jimmy Greaves
Frode Grodas
Eidur Gudjohnsen

Tommy Harmer (Spurs player, Chelsea coach)
Alan Harris (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager)
Micky Hazard
Glenn Hoddle
(Spurs & Chelsea player & manager)
Stewart Houston (Chelsea player, Spurs asst. manager)
Percy Humphries
Steve Kelly
John Kirwan
Colin Lee
Scott Parker
Gustavo Poyet
Graham Roberts
Max Seeburg

Buchanan Sharp
Bobby Smith
Neil Sullivan

Andy Thompson (Spurs player, Chelsea coach)
Sid Tickridge
Jimmy Townley
Terry Venables (also Spurs manager)
Andre Villas-Boas (manager at both clubs)
Keith Weller
Ernie Walley (Spurs player, Chelsea asst. manager)
Harry Wilding
Clive Wilson
Vivian Woodward


 
So team for this one

Lloris
Walker - king - Vertonghen - (in form) BAE
carrick - sandro
Bale - modric - eriksen
Berbatov

Bench: Vorm, van der Vaart, Keane, 2010 Kaboul, 2011 Lennon, huddlestone, 2010 Dawson

:adegrin2::chadliblow::eriksenlol::levyeyes:
 
[formation=4231, Lloris, Walker, Fazio, Verts, Davies, Dembele, Mason, Townsend, Kane, Eriksen, Lamela][/formation]

I'm looking at that lineup I posted and the more I think about it, I really think that's the best way forward.

I think that Eriksen has been fairly ineffective playing from the #10 position, so push him out left. Dembele needs to be given another shot after how well he played against United. Not to mention we need a skilled player to get past Chelsea's defense, Bentaleb doesn't offer exactly what we need for this one. Lamela playing up means you don't have to worry about his woeful defensive abilities as much, and it might create space behind him that Kane and Eriksen could utilize. The best part of this? If it doesn't work you can put Chadli in for either Townsend or Lamela, shift Eriksen to the middle and whoever you didn't sub out will play RW. Davies absolutely has to play over Rose. What Davies lacks in attacking ability he more than makes up for by making that left side an absolute bitch to attack from.
We'd get our arses handed to us with that team. Kane is not a creative number 10. He's been superb up front, leave him up there.
Lamela has shown no qualities that make him suit a number 9 role. He'd be lucky to start on the right in my opinion. Lennon the better option for his width and defensive tracking.
Townsend was still not good enough (again) against Man Utd - not sure why we'd start him over Chadli or Lamela.
Eriksen has not been ineffective in my opinion. The lad is class on the ball, and oozes creativity. Gotta be behind the striker, wasted on the left.
Agree Dembele should play. Still love the bloke, he retains possession fantastically, is fast, and can put in a tackle. One of the first names on the team sheet against a team like Chelsea, for me.
Agree on Davies as well. I slated him for being average a few weeks ago. Since then he's been a rock at the back and well and truly proved me wrong. Defence now picks itself.

I don't think we can get our formation and team selection wrong from the start. Chelsea won't afford us the opportunity to put it right, we will be 2-0 by then. We have to have a clear and concise game plan from the start, and the longer it stays 0-0, the better our chances of snatching a victory with our superior fitness (and with Eriksen on the pitch!).

Stambouli misses this one for me, won't have the pace to keep up with the game, will get booked and then won't be able to put a foot in. Mason and Dembele holding for me, creating from deep. Eriksen in front of them. Kane up top, Lennon and Chadli wide men.

[formation=4231, Lloris, Walker, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies, Dembele, Mason, Lennon, Eriksen, Chadli, Kane][/formation]
 
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I totally agree in an ideal world, but I'd rather scrape a draw than take it to them, get thrashed again & have to put up with another meltdown on here AND have to listen to "the special one" droning on-again. The "park the bus" comment when Santini "parked the bus" still amuses me because the "special one" was outfought tactically & didn't have the decency to admit it- an unattractive trait he's carried through his managerial career. I'd love to see a Mourinho meltdown as any other team (except Woolwich) ghosts past them into a commanding lead in the table. A weekly draining of his ego would be perfect.
when i said take it to em i didn't mean go all out attack although i admit that's probably how it came across. i would't be happy with 10 men behind the ball and scraping a draw whilst not going for it at all when we had the opportunities, i want us to show something going forward and at least have some sort of go.

they are a lot better than us, but they're not unbeatable and we shouldn't be so scared of them that we stick 10 men behind the ball
 
Is it just me, or is this 'Juju' stuff past it's expiry date?

It was funny for about a week.

Match threads are fucking shocking these days. Should have allocated forum members to start them.
 
[formation="4231, Lloris, Walker, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies, Bentaleb, Mason, Lamela, Dembele, Eriksen, Kane"][/formation]
We need some physicality & class in our side if we are to get the win against these pikey pricks that's why I'd go with Dembele & Lamela to start with. One is capable of magic and the other when he wants to is our best physical central midfielder. Problem is he just enjoys shrugging off challenges and doing nothing with the ball. Just keep it simple for him and tell him to get it wide to Eriksen & Lamela and to get in the faces of Matic & Fabregas!
 
We will lose, its going to be very painfull to watch and the ref's going to give all important decicions to them and make up for it with some pointless yellow cards for *iinsert random chav* and Ivanovic late on in the game.

I usualy go for optimism but when we are up against the most cynical (and clinical) of teams around, we dont stand a chance. They will win and it will be dirty and afterwards they will all gloat and forget that they are the dirtiest bunch to have walked this earth, you can catch koodies from even looking at a chelski 'fan'.
 
I think there's a more positive attitude than last season, where when we had Liverpool or Chelsea or any of the big boys coming up we knew for sure we were going to get fucked. Now I think we are starting to be able to grind out wins, or at least draws. If we can come out of our Christmas run with five points that's a result in my book. Man Utd then Chelsea a few days later... Whoever arranges the fixtures really does not like us.
 
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