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If any of this is true Baldy better have them on the line of the tens of millions this will cost us.
If any of this is true Baldy better have them on the line of the tens of millions this will cost us.
This confirms all my suspicions of this being a poorly organised project.
If you move the even rows half a seat across, the ones then jutting out into the aisle would have to be removed. So you're lose one seat every other row. If you didn't take that seat out it would mean the aisle was too narrow.Would it though?
All you're doing is moving the 'even rows' (So 2, 4, 6 etc) half a seat across... and leaving the 'odd numbers' where they are.
if you're starting from scratch (as WE are with the new stadium) surely you account for the 'staggered' layout of the seating.
You're not LOSING any seating, as you're building the layout around that design.
The aisles would be that much wider (If needed) to accommodate the staggared layout.
I dunno... I've never built a stadium.... but as a layman and (rather short) fan, who only attends games, it strikes me as odd that it's never even been trialled.
Yes, you'd effectively lose one seat in every row to prevent the last seat from the odd row protruding into the aisle (which I doubt would be allowed in a stadium full of staggering drunks). Widening the aisles would have the same effect.
I can't be bothered to work it out but that would mean a significant loss of capacity and therefore income, which certain people wouldn't be very keen on
...and I guess THIS is why I've never been asked to design a stadium!If you move the even rows half a seat across, the ones then jutting out into the aisle would have to be removed. So you're lose one seat every other row. If you didn't take that seat out it would mean the aisle was too narrow.
You even say yourself, "the aisles would be that much wider", well where is that space coming from? The only way you can make aisles wider is by taking out seats.
Anyway, the whole idea is largely unnecessary in a football stadium as unlike a cinema or theatre you're often looking to the sides anyway - you're not always looking forwards as the ball moves around the whole pitch.
I work in the building services industry and can say I haven't seen a project managed the way it has been on this stadium (if true). Generally, you have a main contractor such as Mace who would then appoint all the sub-contractors such as Imtech (electrical) and whoever was carrying out the mechanical works. It seems in this case Mace were used to oversee but had no real control as all the sub-contractors were hired by the club. Bizarre.This confirms all my suspicions of this being a poorly organised project.
I work in the building services industry and can say I haven't seen a project managed the way it has been on this stadium (if true). Generally, you have a main contractor such as Mace who would then appoint all the sub-contractors such as Imtech (electrical) and whoever was carrying out the mechanical works. It seems in this case Mace were used to oversee but had no real control as all the sub-contractors were hired by the club. Bizarre.
If any of this is true Baldy better have them on the line of the tens of millions this will cost us.
This confirms all my suspicions of this being a poorly organised project.
It's ridiculous.
It effectively removes all power from their hands and makes them redundant. If they can't put pressure on a sub contractor due to not even being in charge of the contracts, how can they effectively do anything?
You've answered your own question there. Wider aisles mean less room for seats in adjacent blocks. It's a knock on effect. No different than wider seats or rows with increased legroom.Would it though?
All you're doing is moving the 'even rows' (So 2, 4, 6 etc) half a seat across... and leaving the 'odd numbers' where they are.
if you're starting from scratch (as WE are with the new stadium) surely you account for the 'staggered' layout of the seating.
You're not LOSING any seating, as you're building the layout around that design.
The aisles would be that much wider (If needed) to accommodate the staggared layout.
I dunno... I've never built a stadium.... but as a layman and (rather short) fan, who only attends games, it strikes me as odd that it's never even been trialled.
Does that not fuck up any penalty clauses for failures etc? I mean, if MACE have no control over anything then how can they be fully held to account when things go tits up?I work in the building services industry and can say I haven't seen a project managed the way it has been on this stadium (if true). Generally, you have a main contractor such as Mace who would then appoint all the sub-contractors such as Imtech (electrical) and whoever was carrying out the mechanical works. It seems in this case Mace were used to oversee but had no real control as all the sub-contractors were hired by the club. Bizarre.
The final cost of this stadium is going to make for painful reading if even a quarter of that CN article is true
Notice the golden cockeral at the top.
I tend to agree with this line because if you click on the link now you can only read it if you subscribe to Construction News, er....No thanks!With over 3,000 workers on the site at times there are bound to be a large number of people who regularly abuse drugs and/or alcohol.
I bet that if the police tested all the workforce one morning, especially a Monday morning. they would find a hundred or more 'under the influence'.
Same would go for many building sites and big offices with thousands of employees.
Simply confirms my opinion the CS is just writing stories fir the clicks and ad revenue they get.