We outplay teams as City did to us and it feels good-we will do it our way. We can hold our heads high and be proud. We mustn't loose who we are as a club which we would if we became a City or a Chelsea monster.
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Completely agree with this point.
Don't agree with this. He's young with loads of potential and has been good more often than not this season. He is learning and 100% worth persevering with IMHO.
Jan Vertonghen...what a player. It's between him and Eriksen for my player of the year vote this season. Although at times thought there was too much space between Jan and Sanchez last night.
I think ultimately we lost because some of our players don't match up to the standards of some of City's players. All our players who started are very good, but I think there are a few that don't get in that City team, not a surprise with the amount of money they've spent. I have no doubt if we spent anywhere near that level we would surpass them with Poch in charge.
Tactically yes there were a few things we did wrong but it's always going to be hard coming up against a team playing at the level they were last night and in the 4-1 defeat. I think they made us look bad more so than we actually played badly. Easily the best team we have faced in recent seasons.
i hope so! it's just a feeling i have about him, sometimes we take for granted that a player is going to improve. But as i said before, the most important thing is to work on the defensive phase, i think we are really misorganized back there and that doesn't help the single player
Good about the North- that's where I will be.
I can see some arguments happening in the upper echelons of the South between people who want to stand and people who are there to be part of the atmosphere without making it. The part nearest the pitch should be great though. At any rate whatever it's like it will seem good because we will be comparing it to Wembley not WHL!
I completely agree with what you say about a player to shield the back four. I don't think that player is Dier I'm afraid. I think Wanyama should have another shot.
Wow!
Genuine question. Are you happy to continue playing Elite Club ticket prices, soon to be the worlds highest, while watching these cheaper, second rate players that ensure we lose occassionally?
Its hard to see when every season at least one team will buy a few establish quality players and are on par with us without playing that well (Utd come to mind).
For me its sanchez. The Juve goals, yesterday... Against the big teams he is always the one that plays them onside. A promising young talent yet but for not in toby's class. We never conceded goals like that last season. Mistake not starting son too.
now calmed down a bit, we had moments but mostly we were played at our own game and poor defensive mistakes cost us, sanchez and vertonghen seemed proper out of touch with each other yesterday
Couldn't disagree with this more. You just write him off after one shaky display? Glad you're not a youth coach! He's been fantastic this season and really immense in some games. Name me another CB you can think of who is rock solid in their early 20s. Every young defender is going to make mistakes because it's a position you mature into. Cut the boy some slack, and any idiot scapegoating him for yesterday can fuck right off.
Thats a bit harsh?
These second rate players are getting a top 4 place every season for us to enjoy CL football.
THFC are a big club and whether second rate players or not we mustn't ever forget that. We are holding our own against the big spenders and will get better. Football is about competing - buying the best as City have done, that goes out the window and its all about money. Poch could achieve what Pep has at City but pep could not achieve what Poch has done with us-its that simple. Id rather be a Poch fan than Pep?
Sorry to say I disagree on Moura. I don't get the enthusiasm, don't see much there in terms of a player who can help us much. Really hope I'm wrong!
honestly, when he's been on he's looked a bright spark, its hard to do anything when you get next to no game time, poch needs to give him a start before i really judge him as a player
Fair play to you. Like I say I hope I'm wrong and I could well be. But people said the same things about N'Jie and N'Koudou and if I am brutally honest my guess is that we've got another Jose Dominguez-esque player on our hands.
Exactly, JT.
They're not 'second rate' of course, they're all International quality, but I appreciate you're exaggerating to make a point.
You want the club to buy success, win every game and be like Man City or Chelsea. (You seem to think you're entitled to expect this because the ticket prices are high, but that's another issue).
I want the club to stay like Spurs, 'my' Spurs, the Spurs I've supported for 50 years, and will continue to support even if they "lose occasionally" (or even frequently).
Only one of us can be right.
It was on,y 2-3 seasons ago that he was seen as one of the hottest young talents in the game. Neymar was desperate for him to stay at PSG because he’s well aware of his talents. He’s nothing like any of those players you mentioned. He’s not a prospect, he’s an established player that got frozen out after PSG’s spending spree.
For what it's worth here's my two pennies;
The high line; difficult to employ effectively when the opposition have such pace and the skill to play around the 'press'. Sanchez seemed culpable for allowing Jesus to get behind him but I think he had a particularly difficult role. Should we have sat deeper and played more on the break like against Dortmund?
Quality out wide; I like Davis and Trippier but they looked out of their depth against Sane and Sterling (if he could finish properly he'd be awesome). I don't know if Aurier would have been better.
Movement; when we had possession and City were pressing there was a lack of movement from players looking to receive the ball whereas City were constantly changing their shape according to what was happening. Sometimes it looked like they had 13 players on the pitch.
More time for Moura; surely Poch needs to give Lucas more match time. He offered something different when he came on and stung the palms of Emerson with decent effort.
People leaving directly after their third goal! Aaaarrgghh!
The fucking Poznan!! Aaaarrrghhh!
Sheikh Mansour and his family of torturers! Aaarrghhh!
The schlepp home from Wembley! Aaaarrgh!!!
Losing! Aarrrgghhh!
Well those last few lines are the most articulate I've been on this forum!
The high line; difficult to employ effectively when the opposition have such pace and the skill to play around the 'press'. Sanchez seemed culpable for allowing Jesus to get behind him but I think he had a particularly difficult role. Should we have sat deeper and played more on the break like against Dortmund?
Quality out wide; I like Davis and Trippier but they looked out of their depth against Sane and Sterling (if he could finish properly he'd be awesome). I don't know if Aurier would have been better.
Movement; when we had possession and City were pressing there was a lack of movement from players looking to receive the ball whereas City were constantly changing their shape according to what was happening. Sometimes it looked like they had 13 players on the pitch.
More time for Moura; surely Poch needs to give Lucas more match time. He offered something different when he came on and stung the palms of Emerson with decent effort.
People leaving directly after their third goal! Aaaarrgghh!
The fucking Poznan!! Aaaarrrghhh!
Sheikh Mansour and his family of torturers! Aaarrghhh!
The schlepp home from Wembley! Aaaarrgh!!!
Losing! Aarrrgghhh!
Well those last few lines are the most articulate I've been on this forum!
The poster said he would rather watch lads try their best and lose than have superstars and win. By definition those lads are second rate; or second best. Whatever the terminology, It's not harsh, its reality.