Adding on to the Rose point, if he's not going to be solid defensively then what use does he really have? It's clear he's not our preferred attacking fullback at this point, why do we think KWP is getting so much more time on the ball than Rose in the attacking third? Rose is still fairly solid at dribbling around defenders but he can't create anything off it and his crossing is just not good at this point.
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Well we aren't going to agree on that goal or the fact that Davinson clearly let's Joelinton peel off him against Newcastle (while marking air and looking the wrong way) and everyone expects Rose to get round and cover him...poor old Danny Rose
No so much a "yet we..." scenario as I'd say we are weaker at the back BECAUSE of it...
We've gone from a) 2 players both capable of assuming such duties (be that MD/VW, MD/ED or VW/ED) at times with 3 CBs behind them to b) 2CBs + Winks deployed as some kind of Pirlo-lite.
Come on, there have been more errors from him this season then one, and you know it.
Also he was rather weak whole of the last season.
I don't fully get, why you bring up something that was 2 years ago, as so much has changed between then and now. One could have said same thing about Wimmer when he was sold - he did okay in one spell when Toby was injured as well. But no-one was buying this story.
No-no. You stupid
! Go to other thread and you can read, how "there is no use of DM in such game!!!" and "DM does not help you unlock the defence, so it is pointless waste of space!!" and many more...
Totally discarding the fact that we scored the most goals in EPL with designated DM on the field constantly and we even scored the most goals with designated DM on the field... but hey, don't let facts get into a way of your opinion, right!
He's made one error leading to a goal this season - Newcastle. And even then the blame is shared between him and Rose. The same amount as Alderweireld.
Sanchez was to blame for the Newcastle goal - haven't said otherwise. Rose is too. Poor ol' Danny Rose indeed. Fucking piss poor Danny Rose more like.
Sanchez also plays left sided for Colombia. But Colombia's defense is much more zonal than ours. Him and Mina have clear zones that they operate in and don't drift out off. Unlike us where Toby generally is expected to drift and seek up opposition players with Jan operating behind him as a form of clean up crew.
I’m coaching an under 11 team this Saturday you are welcome to come along to the section on team shape and the role of the wide defender covering when the ball goes over and behind the central defender (even more important in 9 aside football when generally it is a back 3) generally the boys pick it up straight away - shame one of England’s best left backs in recent years has forgotten that part of his game - ffs even Merson who is hardly a tactical genius called it correctly on the debate programme on sky
It was a good balance for a variety of reasons
He has zero use.
He shows PASHUN though and fans like that - wouldn't surprise me if the only reason he's been playing is because Sessegnon is injured and Davies is coming back from surgery and probably isn't match fit.
He's done in a few months time when everyone is fit though so not to worry.
Ah, yea, and City 2nd goal? Where he misread the ball (did not make it to the ball, yet Aguero behind him did) - are you saying that he couldnt have blocked this ball? He was passanger there. Sorry, I don't know what you regard as "error leading to goal" but in this instance he had chance to deny the goal and didnt = to me error leading to a goal.
Haha wow, condescending but OK, not sure what you mean, he did cover, just wasn't able to stop the shot...if you think Rose should have won the ball then fair enough but he was chasing the guy down (who broke through the middle not his winger) and was never in a position to win the ball easily. McGinn nodded the ball down very well and Rose did the best he could. If you're saying it's impossible for Davinson to read that ball and get back then how on earth is Rose who is further away supposed to see it coming (even though he did)?
Ah the City 2nd goal.
Rose not getting close to his man
Winks/Eriksen not following de Bruyne
Alderweireld letting Aguero run right by him.
But sure, let's blame Sanchez.
You just don’t seem to appreciate that rose as the left back should have been in a position to clear the danger - he wasn’t so strikers get a free shot at goal - shall we just agree to differing opinions rather than boring everyone rigid - there are plenty of other threads/cunt offs without us adding to it
Also by that notion yo
Yeah fair enough, I don't agree, because he did get back but like you say it's a boring point for others to read.
What is your point? If Kane does not put the pressure on the CB in oppo box, then automatically everything that follows isn't a mistake when in fact it was still possible to avoid the goal?!?!
I don't get it. In this situation Aguero came from more difficult position, and scored. Sanchez came from better and didn't even teach the ball. How is that not a mistake? Honestly I would like to understand this.
I am not saying that he was only one to blame there - sure there were others involved as well. But he also made an error.
No problem with starting the same defence, my problem us that as a unit it doesn't seem to be doing all it should be ,- and whilst individual players can be named, think there are some collective problems to sort out.
It is possible that once the main European TWs close Poch can be more ruthless in dealing with some of the individuals if they have previously said to Poch " play me or I'll go to a European club before TW ends and you cannot replace me" - but only if that kind of thing is going on, and there is no credible reports of that atm
Didnt trippier say poch and his coaching team dont coach defending?
If that is true I will be fucking shocked.
A former centerback not teaching defending sounds absolutely bonkers.