Ok I get it but I'm not a Bony fan and not sure Schneiderlin is any better than Dier.
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Ok I get it but I'm not a Bony fan and not sure Schneiderlin is any better than Dier.
If you look at the team that finished the game against Sunderland in Bale's last game, and the team that played vs Everton, we clearly have gone backwards. Mainly because of Bale, though. Take Bale out of that team and there is little to choose between that side and our current one. I'd probably say the older side is still slightly better, even without Bale, but it's arguable.
We have spent money badly since then. Our chance of fighting for top 4 depends on being able to sign unproven players who then come to be very good, or for such players to come through the youth system, and of course how well the manager/coach does. But it's a tough ask when you look at who we are competing against, and the advantages those sides have, even if one or more of them underperform. There's always going to be games we should win that we don't, and although the league table last year said that 71 points (or 70 with a very good goal difference) would have been enough for top four, you can bet that if we had challenged til the end that total would have been higher, I would guess 76 points...if Man Utd & Woolwich had needed to win games at the end.
We have spent money badly since then. Our chance of fighting for top 4 depends on being able to sign unproven players who then come to be very good, or for such players to come through the youth system, and of course how well the manager/coach does. But it's a tough ask when you look at who we are competing against, and the advantages those sides have, even if one or more of them underperform. There's always going to be games we should win that we don't, and although the league table last year said that 71 points (or 70 with a very good goal difference) would have been enough for top four, you can bet that if we had challenged til the end that total would have been higher, I would guess 76 points...if Man Utd & Woolwich had needed to win games at the end.
And the management's statement thread, and the ENIC thread, and just about every other one since it's always the same 5 people saying the same 2 things.
I think there's a good reason we haven't seen that. Both struggle to score. You might say that they haven't had enough chances playing deeper, but I'd say they've both had plenty, especially Mason, and we've seen enough to conclude their chance-conversion rate is too poor to be playing in that position.
Plenty? One (Mason) has played a SINGLE full 90 as an AM. Not one of them have played 2 full games as an AM yet.
They have been DM's. Only this season has Mason been used and I'm still not sure if he's even completed a full 90 with subs etc.
They can only be judged in that aspect after a season of being an AM. Or at least a couple of months.
Also: Mason was one of the best players on the pitch when he did. We found out the hard way when Lamela replaced him.
Sorry, my post was poorly worded. I know they have been playing as DM's, but even in that position they have had enough chances on goal and have been very poor in that regard. From that my opinion is they are not good enough in front of goal to be playing further forward, regardless of 58 goals in a youth season. I like them both but they haven't been dangerous enough. Even playing in that role you would expect them to contribute more goals. From what I've seen they are better at defensive work.
We drew against Stoke and Everton at home during the Redknapp era, you're argument is stupid and you should feel stupid
Its called having a consistent argument.
Lets see what you have claimed the last few weeks:
The squad needs improving
The squad is fine
Dont want signings
Want signings as the squad can be improved
Dont want signings cos we cant afford it
The window was good, happy with the squad
Squad could still be strengthened
Happy with Levy´s transfer policy
Happy with Poch
SAF, Jose and Pep would do no better with this squad as its weak
Squad is strong
Building for future, dont need signings
We are better now than when we was in the CL
Need to pay players 200 grand a week to finish 4th
Cant compete without money
Could still finish 4th without money
But cant compete without money
But could still finish 4th without money
But probably wont
Maths said we probably wont
But we could
But we need money
But we might
But we probably wont
We are a 5th wage bill team so finishing 5th is par
But it will be unlikely to finish 5th with this squad
6th would be ok
4th was lucky
We are better now, but dont expect 5th
We need to mould our academy players into 200 grand a week players
Thats the only way
We cannot build a top 4 team
We can build a top 4 team
But Utd and Liverpool spent money
Our £110M to finish 6th doesnt count
The £50M we spent this window doesnt count
The £22M we tried to spend on deadline day doesnt count
We are broke and need a stadium to come 4th
Coming 4th twice before was a one off
You really do try so very hard to misrepresent everyone else for the sake of starting arguments, don't you. Not really sure why, but given how much you post, it seems to be spawned by some lack of attention in the real world.
Sammy. Are you really so dumb as to not see that those things can be said in almost the same sentence? We don't have the resources to build a champions league quality squad right now, that is true. But if things go our way and we get lucky we could end up in a champions league spot anyway. Just like we have done before.
Idiot.
Idiot.
The only mug is you. We don't have that money to buy a Champion's League club off the shelf. Literally. We cannot pay for a squad of 25 Champion's League players. We don't have the money to pay for either that much in transfer fees, or that much in wages.
That does not mean it is impossible for us to finish in the top 4. It means that it is highly improbable. Shit can happen, and a freak season could come our way. But it's not likely.
There is nothing inconsistent in what I have said. What is inconsistent is your ability to actually understand what's written.
By your argument Chelsea shouldn't be getting done 5-3 by us. Or getting beaten by any team for that matter, since on paper they have the strongest squad in the league. Can you explain how that happened? Can you explain how Chelsea didn't take 6 points from us last year even though on paper we have a worse squad and a worse manager than them? Is it because we played better on the day? Much like West Ham did against us? You need to stop acting like you can buy points. IF you could buy points then UTD would have won the league last year and will win it again.
And Liverpool would finish above us, not below us.
And even without signing a striker or a DM we still stand a chance. MUG.
That still doesn't excuse the fact that we beat them. We could still finish 4th this year. There was always an outside chance of us finishing 4th last year. Because we are an outside bet. Nobody but you seems to expect that we should be finishing 4th because once again, the jump from 5th to 4th IS THE FUCKING BIGGEST JUMP IN THE LEAGUE
Let's say we make up the 10 points we need this season to get a champions league spot with last years points total. It will count for fuck all if UTD, Chelsea, City and Arse all improve their points tally on last year by cutting out their defeats to smaller clubs. If no teams lost to clubs smaller than them, the league table wouldn't look that much different. In fact, we'd be finishing 6th instead of 5th.
Are you really a Cocky Jocky?
If I supported anyone other than Spurs I wouldn't waste any of my time reading the shit Sammy says and thinks makes any fucking sense.
Nice try at a topic change. They still lost to us. Why didn't they win that one game? They're obviously better than us, since they won the league, so why didn't they beat us? If they're the better team, then they should win the game, every time, right?
If not, then you also have the same reason we lost the games you harp on about. Shit happens.
Your posts have shown that you don't understand the concept of probability. As such, I am done with the discussion, as you're literally incapable of understanding the topic.
But by your logic clubs shouldn't be losing to smaller clubs than them. Meaning by your logic bare in mind, that the highest we can finish in the league would be 6th.
By Sammy's logic we need not even play any games, just wait to see who spent most in the transfer window and hand them the points accordingly.
I didn't think of it that way. Maybe Sammy should make his own game and use his own money to fund his way to the top!