Yet you are arguing that we cant compete without top players. Now you are saying we could have missed 4th with Messi, Ronaldo and and Robben
Keep going round in those circles mug.
Did I say we would have missed 4th? Last I checked I said we still could have lost those 3 fucking games. Keep twisting it to suit yourself though.
The worst thing is you quoted me mentioning those games we could have lost. Were you born dumb or dropped as a child?