Admittedly, I very much miss the atmosphere of the old ground. Don’t miss anything else about it though.
And the new one will make us much stronger over time. Had to happen.
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And the new one will make us much stronger over time. Had to happen.
very well put and all true. we were as poorly run as everton are now towards the end of Sugar's time
Yep 100% agree with that about the atmosphere of the old ground, but times change and things move on.
There's no way we could compete at a relatively high level long term if we were still at WHL.
Eventually clubs like Man Utd, City etc would have come after Kane and Son and we would have had no choice but to sell them.
Hold on wait, didn't hear over and over again that we cannot expect "to compete against top clubs" anyway and that is a defence of ENICs failure to deliver what they claim we want?
So which one is it?
Are we now competitive or are we not?
We have the platform to be competitive since we moved in to the stadium and started to bring in revenue from it - we are not currently competitive (in terms of challenging for the title) because the squad fell to pieces during the build and we're rebuilding.
Nothing that hasn't been said a million times before, not sure why you're needing to ask for clarification tbh
Agreed. They either really want to win stuff but are awful at it. Or they have no real desire & determination to win things. I think it’s the later. But either way it’s why they need to go.
I think their blatant lack of intent when we've been so close definitely points to the latter.
Saha / Nelson?. One and a half year self imposed transfer embargo? Lower net spend than the likes of Burnley during Pochetinno's tenure
In fact, it's not really even a question since Levy himself admitted they only got involved to exploit football's popularity for financial gain.
Now. When it comes to real estate and increasing their property portfolio off the back of our football club. They're real winners
.Golf courses, apartment blocks and new cinemas don't really get my juices flowing the same way as a major trophy or two, unfortunately
I think their blatant lack of intent when we've been so close definitely points to the latter.
Saha / Nelson?. One and a half year self imposed transfer embargo? Lower net spend than the likes of Burnley during Pochetinno's tenure
In fact, it's not really even a question since Levy himself admitted they only got involved to exploit football's popularity for financial gain.
Now. When it comes to real estate and increasing their property portfolio off the back of our football club. They're real winners
Golf courses, apartment blocks and new cinemas don't really get my juices flowing the same way as a major trophy or two, unfortunately
Juices flowing...
The point I was making was the stadium and infrastructure has given us a massive platform to be able to continue to compete near the top. It's a massive benefit in the long term rather than the short term which if we were still at the old ground the finances wouldn't have been there.
Once we have a few years of the stadium I think we'll see great benefits from it.
Yeah I think so too. It’s short sighted because with just a bit more investment of a couple of quality needed players it could have got us over the line for a title. Then imagine how many more decades that would have bought enic.I think their blatant lack of intent when we've been so close definitely points to the latter.
Saha / Nelson?. One and a half year self imposed transfer embargo? Lower net spend than the likes of Burnley during Pochetinno's tenure
In fact, it's not really even a question since Levy himself admitted they only got involved to exploit football's popularity for financial gain.
Now. When it comes to real estate and increasing their property portfolio off the back of our football club. They're real winners
Golf courses, apartment blocks and new cinemas don't really get my juices flowing the same way as a major trophy or two, unfortunately
It’s sort of like the closer we get, levy sees this as reason why we don’t need more good players because we are good.
So in other words it does nothing, absolutely nothing for our footballing ability to
- compete in the actual top (as ENIC said was the ambition)
- now
Thanks. Glad we cleared that up.
Now, appearently, we just have to wait
- another few years before ENIC can be judged.
Good lord, this is going in circles over and over and over and over again, isn't it?
Because you and Top Spurs are telling us the direct opposite things.
You are saying we have the platform to be competitive. He is telling us that we can't do it against the top and that we won't for years.
So which one is it? Could you possibly coordinate your excuses before you get back to us?
You bought it up?
So you're the one going round in circles.
We finished 4th last season, if we were 17th or sitting in mid table I'd understand your point abit more.
How much more competitive do you want us to be without a state ownership?
Also, do you think the club would have been able to attract Antonio Conte to manage us if it wasn't for the infrastructure of the club? No chance. Thanks to ENIC and the progress off the pitch we have a manager like Antonio Conte.
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You are asking the wrong question. How competetive have ENIC told us for 20+ they want us to be?
It's staggering how we are going round in circles, only for the corporate fanclub to avoid judging ENIC by ENICs own yardstick.
I think it's a good idea to periodically remind ourselves exactly what our owners are all about, guys.
7th the season before and 6th the season before that and looking far more likely to have another season in that range than we are to finish top 4 this season.
1st in ticket pricing table across all of those seasons
'Yup.
First in ticket prices and an explicit ambition to compete for first in the league table.
It's not even a secret.
Last season was the only change in a steady downward trajectory. From 16/17 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th. I'd love to say we'll finish 4th again this season but our football is poor and another window has pretty much come and gone without much improvement. More likely 5th/6th. Its then difficult to see how we get back in with Newcastle, Woolwich, Man Utd improving, Chelsea spending like they are and Liverpool wont be bad for long.
We've been quite relient on other clubs failings in getting respectable finishes of late, i mean Solskjaer as manager for 3 years, Arteta learning the ropes but our competitors have sorted themselves out by and large. We need to start to do the same.
I think it's a good idea to periodically remind ourselves exactly what our owners are all about, guys.
These parasites will never let us go IMO