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For me two sides that most would do a decent job. Some players we have today played under him, thank god he's gone-what would have become of them?
Stop rewritting history please. You might not like sherwood but he did a lof of good things. For one, it was him who told the board that Kane has a big future here when he was about to be shifted out on loan again (and he gave him a run of games in the league). Benteleb and mason are potentially going to earn the club a combined 32m as well.
The era I completely fell out of love with Tottenham, boring turgid football and a group of players who had no love for the club. We've had worse teams but I've never had that feeling of detachment from what's happening on the pitch
Don't think AVB can be entirely to blame though as he inherited a bloated squad and as such didn't get the personnel he wanted/needed.
Don't think AVB can be entirely to blame though as he inherited a bloated squad and as such didn't get the personnel he wanted/needed.
No he didn't
Yes it was not very professional. But I imagine it's a natural reaction to being put in a job which is impossible to keep. I'd bet you or I would get angry if we were given a job a fair way beyond our experience level, but with basically no chance of retaining it. You could say Levy was disingenuous offering him the 2 year (or 1.5 year) contract. He was clearly just doing it so he would sign, knowing he could then pay him off.
As for his talent, I think that remains to be seen, he was and still is an inexperienced manager who has yet to learn his trade.
Yeah, that's what he said. Amongst other things.
This win ratio has to stop. Points and relative points(league position) is the only measure, if we are really to the stats thing.
We sacked AVB for not doing enough, which was within hindsight the right decision, no questions. Sherwood did not improve that, not in league standings not in points tally, and certainly not in building anything special.
Taking credit for McDermotts and Inglethorpes work is just plainly tasteless.
After leaving Spurs he cunted off Villa and for all his youth specialist acclaim I haven't seen documentation of a single EPL youth academy approaching him.
So it appears that various EPL club boards and managers share my opinion of his acclaimed youth promotion ability. None of us fans can know for certain, but seeing him alongside Hansen, Shearer and other clueless ex players on telly seems to rather tell it's own story.
All while Poch, Klopp and Pep alongside other really skillful managment professionals are tearing up the league.
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I'd argue he didn't have the chance to improve on AVB, as he was only here five minutes. Not that I think we should have kept him any longer, much better to bring in a more experienced manager. It just seems hard, from my perspective, to really judge him on a few months in charge. In that time he did an okay job, in my opinion, and I struggle to understand the strength of feeling you have against him, but I'm not going to argue about it...it's ancient history, he's gone, we're both pleased we have Poch in charge instead, end of story.
Yes he did. He played the kids who now have extremely high transfer values (Kane, Benteleb and Mason the 3 main ones).
This.
For all their talk and braggadocio, in all their cumulative careers, not one of them has been a managerial success. None of them, when put to the test, have actually managed to win a damn thing.
And the notion that they've never gotten a proper chance at a big club is also bullshit, as good managers win with small clubs, and then earn the chances at big clubs. Guardiola started at the B team, Klopp dragged Mainz from depths of the German second division, Tuchel then did the same thing and took them into Europe. Pochettino saved an Espanyol side that deserved relegation and kept them in mid-table, then made Soton a top-10 contender on a shoe-string budget. Even Fergie destroyed the Old Firm duopoly before being sought out by half the English First Division (including us).
Good managers learn their trade on a smaller stage, and by fighting their way beyond the "natural" place of a club, show that they have the managerial skills to perform at a higher level.
The proper football men never have done that, hence why they're on TV in the first place.
Eh? What did he say?
It's clear as day he gave those 3 their proper chance. Before he was in charge...Mason and Kane were being loaned out left right and centre and Benteleb wasn't even getting a look in.
Great fucking post.
That's not really based on facts though, is it?
Sherwood had the job quite safe up until February (even with a contract), then he went on a mental bi-polar style rampage. Let's not forget his antics:
- Claimed he could finish in the top four 'easily' to get a contract
- Claimed kudos for all the good signings, and swerved the bad
- Spilt the beans on a lot of stuff in the media that should have stayed private
- Caused the club a lot of bad PR in general
- Conducted himself poorly with opposing managers on the touchline (Jorge Jesus)
- Did weird things, like sitting in the stands for half a match
- Irked key players by persisting to play Bentaleb when he clearly wasn't ready for that role (showed promise, but clearly made odd team selections to try make himself look good)
- Publicly criticised the board on Live TV when his odd tactics failed (Lennon as a DM!)
- ...and generally talking utter bullshit every 5 minutes
He did some good things, but they will mostly be buried under the pointlessly stupid things he did. Despite the above, he would have probably kept his job if he just shut the fuck up in front of the cameras, but he couldn't help himself. He'd been at the club long enough to know that the board will tolerate almost anything except embarrassment.
Did Sherwood EVER play Mason?
I thought he had a good pre-season under Poch and was given a real chance with us under his tenure?
I think he got his literal debut under Tim, but earned his way onto the team through his pre-season under Pochettino. No one was talking about Mason at all until that pre-season.
I thought his debut was under Redknapp in the UEFA Cup? - I don't think Mason ever even made a Sherwood squad from what I remember.
Could be, I honestly never remember seeing him at any point prior to that first Pochettino pre-season.
Just double checked. He played 4 times for us before Pochettino gave him his chance. 3 times in AVBs first season and then the once under Harry Redknapp.
So Sherwood didn't do ANYTHING with him. Although that could be more to do with the fact that Sherwood probably shipped him out on loan to France or something.