Yes - nowhere near Sandro at his best, imv"average"
But wait - he played for Poch so he must be good and Saints players are hip this summer
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But wait - he played for Poch so he must be good and Saints players are hip this summer
Simply not true mate, but I don't blame you for assuming it.
There's been nothing concrete on Sandro bar the usual media re-hashing of old stories from what I've seen so far
With all due respect, you also completely ignore ITK and rumblings from other boards. That's fine and I don't blame you, but I can assure you I'm not basing my speculation on this matter from the Daily Mail, which reported Holtby was set to move to Villa last week along with Daws.
I see no problem with trying to get players that Pochettino knows, trusts and wants to continue working with.
Me neither - but only if they improve us
Sandro isn't anywhere near Sandro at his best.
Why wouldn't you want a player who has performed under Pochettino already? and yes, anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player must be brainwashed by the hype.
Agreed, and especially considering Schneiderlin himself said it took about six months before the players felt they had fully implemented Poch's strategies. Having at least one of the Saints players could theoretically shorten that transition period significantly, and as much as I'm not a keen fan having two in the form of both a CM as well as a forward would furthermore cut this time period down in having instructional assistance more tailored to each set of positions.
So if we end up getting Schneiderlin..is Pochettino's judgement poor, or has Levy gone over his head? I don't get your outrage..
There is no such thing as ITK - the 'true' ITKs are may be 3-4 bits of info on a once-off basis during the window and often never come again. The self-proclaimed pree-teen cunts who spout bullshit every day (even though they've been proven wrong every window) have no clue, trust me mate.
Does he improve us over Capoue and Sandro?
Last season - yes.
But so was Lamela and Soldado - why are these fan-favourites given a second season to prove themselves while others pushed out of the door?
Going on his performance last season, and the performance of all our CMs I would say yeah.
Sandro at his best, maybe not. But I haven't seen that for a while.
He is one of the better Southampton players in my opinion. Not this Labert, Lallana, Lovren wank fest.
I want to see Paulinho play under Poch's system to get a better idea of what I'm about to say is true. That being said, for all of the shit I give Paulinho, after watching our North American Tour it seems as if he could actually do well in this manner of squad. He would make sense as a sub for Schneiderlin. That doesn't mean I'm not still extremely wary of the guy, but interested to see how Poch integrates his style into the system.
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when he was talking about players that could be leaving.
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when he was talking about players that could be leaving.If that's Pochettino's view after working a season with Schneiderlin and seeing Sandro and Capoue in training then I think that's part of his job to try and get him on board. All hypothetical at this point of course! Personally I think Schneiderlin has more aspects to his game than the two you're mentioning, but that's not relevant really.
As I've always said, you can practically ignore when one ITKer says one thing about one person. Entirely useless. But when there's quite a few pointing in a direction, and signs elsewhere indicating along that same direction, it's worth taking notice and applying context. It makes sense to at least consider the possibility within context than simply insisting it's all entirely wrong altogether. There is a sensible middle ground between believing every word of ITK and not believing a word of it.
I know you want Sandro to stay, ideally I do too if there was a hint we could keep him fit. But in this situation, he's probably the single-most heavily evidenced player to be leaving this summer. If I'm wrong, by all means feel free to dog my shit over it. But unless something changes or we see otherwise, I think he's on the out.
Who do you think we're replacing with Schneiderlin?
There is absolutely more to all of this than meets the eye. It could be that Poch is worried about Sandro's fitness, it could be that Sandro has shown an unwillingness to conform to Poch's style, etc. We all know that Schneiderlin performed the way he needed to perform under Poch, and none of us have seen Sandro play for him (yet). For me that goes a long way.
Also, being surrounded by players that are better than you on a daily basis almost always makes said player better.
I want to see Paulinho play under Poch's system to get a better idea of what I'm about to say is true. That being said, for all of the shit I give Paulinho, after watching our North American Tour it seems as if he could actually do well in this manner of squad. He would make sense as a sub for Schneiderlin. That doesn't mean I'm not still extremely wary of the guy, but interested to see how Poch integrates his style into the system.
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Yeah I'm with ya on this man. I'm intrigued to see how it will work, but interestingly enough it does seem Poch has very much preferred a vertical passer from deep. Paulinho has an excellent gift in his ability to find space in the box which would wreck havoc in a box with the rotation of the forwards, but unless he significantly adds a more forward-thinking and transitional element to his game he's going to be left behind. Looking forward to seeing if Poch can drag that change out of him.
Personally don't believe he will though as it's too much of a change, as he'd be quite literally changing the guy's game a full fuggin 90 degrees. But we'll see.
Saints chairmen tells us to fuck off;
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...z-not-for-sale-says-saints-chief-9636069.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...z-not-for-sale-says-saints-chief-9636069.html
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