He's not back in full training just yet. Trained on his own yesterday. But should be back to full training tomorrow.
But that is admittedly just splitting hairs
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But that is admittedly just splitting hairs
Cool. Sling 'em all out there... You wouldn't for a moment consider slagging all and sundry for us playing poorly, would you?
Pffffffft...... Clearly i'm wasting my time expecting anything approaching a proper discussion with you. Off you pop, back to your kisses, cards and cuntery, you sad ol' puppy dawg.
I didn't slag anyone off - are you well? Made a comment on what I believe was a wrong decision. Or are you unable to accept any form of constructive criticism towards Poch?
1. Should we afford Wanyama the patience and the playing minutes required to see if his knee injuries are so chronic that he can no longer compete at a top level? "We did with Lamela" people may say. Which leads to....
2. Is DM a position that is proportionately difficult and expense to replace / fill that we would be better off with trying to get him back to fitness than finding another player that can compete.
I would say the answers are no and no.
I have no problem with keeping Vic on, standing by him and giving him the care and support he needs to see if he has it in him to get back to his best. But he needs replacing in the short term, we are criminally soft in that area at the moment and it is costing us goals.
We have never had a problem finding decent defensive midfielders, they are fairly plentiful. We also have a history of being over sentimental / slack in the transfer window and ending up playing them for a season too long past there best.
2. Is DM a position that is proportionately difficult and expense to replace / fill that we would be better off with trying to get him back to fitness than finding another player that can compete.
I would say the answers are no and no.
I have no problem with keeping Vic on, standing by him and giving him the care and support he needs to see if he has it in him to get back to his best. But he needs replacing in the short term, we are criminally soft in that area at the moment and it is costing us goals.
We have never had a problem finding decent defensive midfielders, they are fairly plentiful. We also have a history of being over sentimental / slack in the transfer window and ending up playing them for a season too long past there best.
The point
ArcspacE
is making though is that he was technically "fit" or had recovered from the injury - what a player then needs is games to rediscover match fitness. There's a difference. If he wasn't fit-recovered from injury, then he shouldn't be on the bench, but he was. What Arcspace was saying was that he then needed to be given more starts to recover match sharpness. We know this is a thing, any of us that have played, even on an amateur level, but particularly at pro/PL level. You don't just come back from a long injury lay off and have match fitness. But it is also a balancing act between playing a player in this condition verses playing inferior players who are match sharp.
Personally I think when it's poorly performing Dier/Sissoko v non match sharp Wanyama, the benefits of risking him (in the right set up - maybe start with a 433) in the hope that a run of games gets him there make it a worthy risk. But accept It's a tough call. I understand both sides, but like Arc, there were times when I thought he should have been started and given a chance to get some rhythm back, rather than sit on the bench and come into games cold or get ad hoc starts in mish mash cup teams.
He was far from garbage - stick to FM. Wanyama was available as early as 5 Jan 2018
And he participated in 20 of the 24 games we had from the 5th January. Starting 11 of them.
But yeah, not getting enough minutes or game time.
It is more now already.
Last time was 7:1 win over Hull. It took place in 21st of May 2017. That is 534 days. That is 17,5 months.
That is sad.
I really hope he comes back, but how many from the recent past have? I can only recall Lamela...
I thought he played well today. Didn't look spectacular, but he did a lot of very good work linking things up and slowing Palace down. The tank was empty after 60 minutes, but he kept fighting.
Good that Dier can get a break without throwing sand in the gears.
Good that Dier can get a break without throwing sand in the gears.
Slow start and slow finish, but Anfield goal aside, I thought he looked better than we've seen in some time.
Promising.
Looked solid today, certainly getting back to his best .....
I think we should all chip in for a ‘Stannah’ chairlift for those stairs as they don’t look good for his knees
another spell of rehab for his knee. wtf
Sucks to see such a likeable player ravaged by injuries
sadly that is true and maybe Foyth should have his CL place in January IF we progress.
This is where it would be great to have a local loan club so he can do a long rehab at Hotspur Way and still get some competitive games without affecting our registration situation.
Shame what happened to him, but we need warm bodies in the lineup, and particularly in CM right now...