I think he's conceding here that he was relying on a presumption, which I think is fair. I would certainly presume the same.
So are you saying we weren't the bookmakers' favorites in all of those games? I would be very interested to know which ones.
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We were favourites, but not by the margins he assumes. Especially the Newcastle game.
Obveously I would have wanted to win both games?
A team develops win or lose. As a team/players/coach, experience comes from across the spectrum of games? Pochs nievity against experience was clearly exposed in both games.We lost, so lets take a positive form both and march on.
Coral had us odds on and Newcastle at 7/2 for the win. There was not one game that we were not odds-on to win until the final where we were 3/1 underdogs.
Of course, winning a sequence of matches is different to individual odds and no bookmaker could give odds in advance because they don't know the draw, but roughly speaking we would have been around 3/1 to reach the final based on a 4 match accumulator. So while we did well to reach the final, you can trade that 'achievement' against the 'underachievement' of getting knocked out of the FA cup by teams we were odds on to beat (yes, I checked - even Burnley away we were 4/5 on) then it puts this seasons domestic cup performance in perspective.
Why I'm taking time to argue with someone who thought Falcao was 'bang average' at Porto and Atletico Madrid, and thinks I'm not backing up my arguments with facts... that's a far more contentious subject. I think the answer is "because internet".
I wasn't talking about bookie odds, I was referring more to the underlying numbers, like respective PDO and shot quality. We've been less than impressive all year, and that won't change until the players do. Pochettino is hamstrung by the squad at this point.
As for Falcao, yes, he's not as good as his reputation. He got a massive amount of English-language hype after his game against Chelsea, but when you take out the penalties, his record is much less impressive. And post-injury, he's just plain crap.
Meanwhile.....
WE'RE SAFE!!!! ANOTHER SEASON OF PREMIER LEAGUE FOOTBALL TO LOOK FORWARD TO!!!
BTW, it took me this long to realise the table on the right was last season! Amazing to think that we're on the same points as last season, and yet this time last year, not only were we 5th, we still weren't 'safe' mathematically! I can't work out whether that represents progress or not, or just that last season's League was as tight as a Gnat's Chuff...
Man, Norwich plummeted didn't they?? Hull must be shitting themselves, they're a point worse off! ...and on a more serious note, if Man City could do what they did from this position last season, fuck me ArseAnal can have a fucking good go too! Bloody will an'all, you watch!
BTW, it took me this long to realise the table on the right was last season! Amazing to think that we're on the same points as last season, and yet this time last year, not only were we 5th, we still weren't 'safe' mathematically! I can't work out whether that represents progress or not, or just that last season's League was as tight as a Gnat's Chuff...
Man, Norwich plummeted didn't they?? Hull must be shitting themselves, they're a point worse off! ...and on a more serious note, if Man City could do what they did from this position last season, fuck me ArseAnal can have a fucking good go too! Bloody will an'all, you watch!
We may have less points, but our GD has improved!
Last year this time we had conceded 37 and scored 37.
This year the defence is considerably worse, conceding 45. That is 8 more goals conceded compared to last year this time.
However, we have scored 13 more goals.
We also have had Mason/Bentaleb as a rookie midfield pairing, a 21 yr old rookie up front, no fit or decent right back for the majority of the season and two new CB's who have never played in the EPL, one who has just turned 21.
The defence has been bad, but considering the unfamiliarity of the team, as a whole it's not too bad. It can be improved.
We have still got a long way to go but I believe the signs are good.
The last thing we need is another upheaval. We have no God given right to finish 4th when there are 4 teams that do have. We need stability, time to build. Let's give the team we have brought in time to unearth some talent and assemble a decent squad.
We have been dire at times this year but are only 7 points off third. Last year we were 6. Massive difference?
Anyone who thinks we should be pissing 4th spot with our squad and financial muscle is a fucking dreamer.
Before you say 2010, we pipped a not yet entrenched Man City. The year we lost 4th to the Chavs, their players basically threw the league to get AVB sacked.
Good to see we're now level on points compared to last year. Let's hope we improve on the points score comparison by the end of the season. More importantly, let's match, at least, last season's 6th place.
A rare glimmer of positivity?
If there are things to be positive about I'll be positive, ditto the reverse. Let's see how things look at the end of the season.
Well we could all do that - that's just called reacting to events - not the same thing at all.
At this point last year City still had all those games in hand though.
Ahhhh, point well made, I hadn't noticed! You're right... thank fook!!
Mind you, it still means Chelsea are most likely to win it, which is almost, but not much less unbearable than seeing Arseanal win it... at least whoever wins it out of Chelsea/Man City, they'll get fuck all credit... and just be accused of buying titles anyway!
Not much in it compared to last year (right)...and no I'm not going to let the 'not-quite-mathematical unlikelihood that West Brom will catch us' slide - a twenty-goal swing is easlity within Spurs' capabilities.
a twenty-goal swing is easlity within Spurs' capabilities.
Especially as we play a City side with no form at all in a month's time. 25-0 loss incoming
Absolutely gutted the title has slipped out of our grasp now.
Shitty brown has arrived....earlier than last year.....booooo
...can't be caught by Everton now...who'd ha' thot it?
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