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How are AWB's defensive figures 'poor'? Almost tops the tackles p90 + interceptions p90 stat.
The most depressing thing is that we didn't sign Pereira for £19m, an absolute bargain as we now all know.
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Apologies I was misreading the defensive part of the chart - in effect got it the wrong way round.
The higher up the chart the more tackles and interceptions per 90.
I've altered my commentary accordingly
Think the chart can be helpful, but also shows how well a team is playing.
Robertson and Arnold are high up the progression ladder because of the way Pool plays wide and they are covered by their midfield.
Cesar? They play a back three so he is also up the field making runs.
Tackle numbers may be low for KWP, but not that bad when you consider he has played probably 100 less games in his career on average and so is being a little more cautious?
I think we are being overly harsh on a kid that has shown promise. The team is fucking up, not this kid
Robertson and Arnold are high up the progression ladder because of the way Pool plays wide and they are covered by their midfield.
Cesar? They play a back three so he is also up the field making runs.
Tackle numbers may be low for KWP, but not that bad when you consider he has played probably 100 less games in his career on average and so is being a little more cautious?
I think we are being overly harsh on a kid that has shown promise. The team is fucking up, not this kid
Is KWP injured? Seems Poch will play Jesus Perez there before KWP for some reason.
I have to admit that I don't think KWP has been given a fair crack of the whip, considering he plays in what has become a real problem area for us.
You could also argue that Liverpool play well because they have two fantastically progressive and productive FB's.
But agree with your last line.
Agree, they see plenty of the ball and do great things with it. But I don’t think they get that freedom and have the success they have if they don’t have machines in midfield (Wijnaldum is quietly becoming one of my faves) and the best pair of CBs.
Pool are playing like we used to when we were younger. The only thing being they are deeper and I think Klopp is further along in his trade.
Can't help but feel like KWP is done at the club right now. He's only playing as a last resort and Sissoko is now being preferred at RB to him even when he's fit. Not sure why he's even still here at this point.
The chart is helpful in simplifying data for a lot of players which makes comparisons a lot easier.
However looking at the defensive numbers, there is no measure of tackles and interceptions missed. So whilst Auriers numbers look good, if the 3 or 4 goals he was culpable v Bayern were factored in he'd look a lot less solid. So rather than absolute numbers if tackles and interceptions made, perhaps that should be net of tackles and interceptions be should have made ( eg tackling rather than going into the Bayern half to get a Bayern player offside - not knowing that offside could not happen that way !)
No doubt there is other data which would be useful to evaluate players by.
Alternatively there needs to be a whole series of charts with different metrics to compare the players.
But I do think the chart as posted starts the conversation nicely as to which FBs are decent and which are not !
I like statistics as much as the other person, but the more and more I watch football the more and more I see statistics being inflated or deflated by how a team is playing. Form dictates percentages more or less.
There are those players that we know are great and have the stats to back it up. Then we have the players that may not be the best at their position, but are playing on a team that play a certain way that make their stats tell the story. Cesar is a great example. He isn’t an attacking FB. He is a traditional defensive minded FB, but his stats say something else and that is because of the way they play.
The eye test is the best test imo and KWP hasn’t been a disgrace to the shirt like a lot of people are making him out to be. Unfortunately we have a coach that seems to prefer brawn over brains.
Based on the minutes they have played so far in the PL KWP is objectively much better. Here is not that many minutes.
Based on the minutes they have played so far in the PL KWP is objectively much better. Here is not that many minutes.
That’s a fun tool. Idk how it works, but took a look at errors and serge apparently has way more when you click all errors
Its possible to choose total and per minute. Since Aurier has played more he has many more.
Fucking pathetic. didn't he have a hat trick of assists in a game last year? How in high holy fuck can Poch keep that talent on the bench? These are the things that make me seriously question Pochettinos footballing judgment. I honestly don't know if he can spot a good footballer from a gym rat. I'm starting to think our scouting team shipped him every good signing before it fell apart. Now we have Aurier, a semi-pro wrestler who plays an RB on Spurs TV, and Sissoko, who couldn't hit the side of a barn from 20 ft with a machine gun.
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If Palace are interested in a loan, we should snap their hands off.