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Good points but regarding point 2 and based on last night and recent months Eriksen can easily be replaced.

Too many of our attacking players are guaranteed to play regardless of form and that needs to change.
 
eugekhan said:
My thoughts:

Attack:
-Sell Kane. Observing how the team has evolved over the past year or so, Kane does not fit well within the system that has recently worked for Tottenham. Keeping him is a lose lose situation for both Kane and the club.
-Build attack around Son as #1 and Moura as #2. Clearly this duo has been working on the biggest stage and against the biggest clubs. I don't see why it wouldn't work going forward. Give Son more responsibility by making him the point-person up front. He still needs to be more consistent with his finishing and perhaps his passing but he has most of the qualities (pace, quickness, skill, ball sense, ambidextrous) that would allow him to be a top 10 attacker in the world.
-I would be inclined to try and sell Ali but if not, I'd move him up into a focused attacking role alongside Moura and Son. At times, he's asked cover most of the pitch but it's clear that he's not up to the task. A more focused attacking role would be more suitable for him at this stage in his career.
-Build some depth up front by signing a player or two with a lot of PACE and ideally, HEIGHT. Doesn't need to be the most expensive players in the world. Sign these players and develop them as the club did with Son. It's becoming more and more apparent that Tottenham needs to build their identity around speed, as many of the top clubs already have been doing.

Midfield:
-Sissoko and Eriksen are untouchables in the Midfield. Everyone else is fair game.
-Despite his recent poor performances, I think a replacement for Eriksen will be extremely hard to come by and even if Tottenham does bring in someone of quality, it'll take 1-2 years for the team to gel with the new playmaker. With a little time and rest, I think Eriksen will be back to form. I would try to keep him at all costs.
-Just like the attack, Tottenham needs to build more depth in the midfield. You could see the fatigue kick in during the latter stages of the season.

Defense:
-Defense looked pretty solid and organized throughout the entire season so I don't think there's much to do here. I think time and experience will only make the defense stronger, should Tottenham be able to keep the core together.
-Love Danny Rose, particularly in a system where pace is instrumental. He's indispensable in my opinion.
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Game was lost in the final third.

Again.

Same thing all season long, you can replace the RB, and you can sign Ndombele, and it wouldn’t have made the slightest difference last night.

Kane didn’t touch the ball and shouldn’t have been anywhere near the starting line up.
Eriksen was his usual average, Dele was yet again in division 3 form, and Son just didn’t have the space (because Kane was in it doing nothing)

We’ve gone as far as we can with this attack, that’s the most painfully obvious thing for me and has been all year. Poch needs to make some big decisions because last night he wasn’t prepared to call the shots that needed calling.

Winks off for Moura? Why not Dele?
Straight swap, done.

Tired off the names still getting free reign over the performers and that’s what’s killing this team.
Dele and Eriksen won’t be missed, and we will see far more improvement if we build our attack around Moura and Son, and get some replacement forwards in.

And yes, Trippier was all over the place, but like I said, put Wan Bissaka there if you want, you’re deluded if you think that will bring something out of Dele or Eriksen.
 
I think it's clear we have.

League Cup runners up
FA Cup semi final x2
Premier League runners up
Top 4 finish x4
Champions League runners up

All in 5 years. If we were good enough and this team were capable of reaching the next level they would have done. Can't keep dismissing lack of "luck" - it's just the team when it came to the final hurdle just didn't have that extra.

Nothing wrong with that. It's about reacting now. We've lost Walker and Dembele from that original Pochettino team and we're about to lose Alderweireld and Eriksen this summer (likely) so a huge summer to try and build a new team with a new style, a new way of playing with different attributes to try and take us to the next level.

And I believe Pochettino can do that if he's allowed to build that team.
 
If Eriksen wants to go to Madrid, I say go ahead. He's a good player but not a top player or a world class player, he won't last at Madrid.
 
Yid_1984

Yid_1984

Yet another trophyless season and this is frustrating from the team that has promised so much until the final obstacle.
Poised to lose both Eriksen and Toby which would be ripping out a key player from our attack and defence . Levy needs to bring some changes in to take Spurs to the next level
1. Emergency revision of the salary cap and offer Toby a new deal meeting his demands that would hopefully change his mind and keep him for another 2 years
2. Los Celso needs to be priority#1 signing no matter what it takes. Very few players can replace Eriksen
3. Trippier's position needs to be upgraded and he needs to be moved on. Wan Bissaka is the best RWB in the country currently - sign him.
4. The side lacks pace compared to the likes of City and liverpool who have Mane, sterling,Sane,Mosalah etc. Pace is critical for counter attacks as well as to break down teams parking the bus. Pacy wingers need to be signed to give an added dimension to the team - we can't rely on Moura and Son's heroics to carry us through every single game. Lamela is useless and needs to be sold -even if he played in the final yesterday he wouldn't have made a difference given his attributes already shown
5. Wanyama is done. Need a reliable DM who can go toe-to-toe with the best and win the midfield battles - and push Sissoko for the spot . Ndombele!
 
It is an end of an era - For this squad at least.
5 years ago, we had one of the youngest team, with a few players in their prime, and a number of starlets.

Now that our starlets are in their prime, or moving into that phase, and our prime players transitioning into arguably their former glories.

The difference is that I think our current batch of regulars (Kane, Dele, Winks) have earned a bucket load of experience challenging for honors. Poch uphill battle is to replace the past peak players (won't name names) with a better crop of players with a higher ceiling than it was 5 years ago.

For that, it is exciting and equally scary, because we never know if they will live up to their potential.
 
Tomo said:
Hard questions to answer for me in some ways.

Would Ndombele and Wan Bisska have changed the game in our favour?

Maybe, both are quick and in the case of Ndombele powerful who can break though the line very often which would have defiantly opened Liverpool up more so we would have probably had more chances with then on the pitch in terms of how the game dynamic would play out.

Winks off?

Very bad call from Poch, our best player other than Rose, should have been Kane or Dele subbed I agree there with you 100%.

Dele and Eriksen?

Both have had poor seasons and IMV are replaceable however our pattern of play would change. If Eriksen leaves and we get Lo Celso, Fekir and say Malcolm we would improve no question IMO and we would have proper competition for places.
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I’m fully up for a wholesale change in our style of play next year.
Failing a return to pressing, Id like to see players signed that can see us go 442 to be honest.

Flat back 4, a destroyer, a creative/holding mid, two wingers and two strikers (or at least an AM behind Kane)

Sick of our formation, sick of our backwards passing and hesitation, and sick of not having any shots.

We had more shots on target in injury time than the 90 last night. I think our first was Eriksens free kick on 85 minutes.
It’s no good being great on the ball in the middle of the pitch and own area.....we just aren’t threat going forward anymore until there’s 10 minutes left.
 
Let's face it, we will be lucky if we sign one 50+ mil player this summer. Foyth will step into Davinsons spot, who will step in for Toby. Eriksen will be sold which will hurt badly but at least we won't have to keep playing Dele out of position anymore.

Levy's number one priority will be balancing the books as usual, and with the stadium payments to make, there won't be any grand rebuild, or massive retooling. Short of a miracle we remain in upper table limbo waiting for a mega money buyer, or several years for the stadium to be paid off.
 
sammyspurs said:
Game was lost in the final third.

Again.

Same thing all season long, you can replace the RB, and you can sign Ndombele, and it wouldn’t have made the slightest difference last night.

Kane didn’t touch the ball and shouldn’t have been anywhere near the starting line up.
Eriksen was his usual average, Dele was yet again in division 3 form, and Son just didn’t have the space (because Kane was in it doing nothing)

We’ve gone as far as we can with this attack, that’s the most painfully obvious thing for me and has been all year. Poch needs to make some big decisions because last night he wasn’t prepared to call the shots that needed calling.

Winks off for Moura? Why not Dele?
Straight swap, done.

Tired off the names still getting free reign over the performers and that’s what’s killing this team.
Dele and Eriksen won’t be missed, and we will see far more improvement if we build our attack around Moura and Son, and get some replacement forwards in.

And yes, Trippier was all over the place, but like I said, put Wan Bissaka there if you want, you’re deluded if you think that will bring something out of Dele or Eriksen.
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Hard questions to answer for me in some ways.

Would Ndombele and Wan Bisska have changed the game in our favour?

Maybe, both are quick and in the case of Ndombele powerful who can break though the line very often which would have defiantly opened Liverpool up more so we would have probably had more chances with then on the pitch in terms of how the game dynamic would play out.

Winks off?

Very bad call from Poch, our best player other than Rose, should have been Kane or Dele subbed I agree there with you 100%.

Dele and Eriksen?

Both have had poor seasons and IMV are replaceable however our pattern of play would change. If Eriksen leaves and we get Lo Celso, Fekir and say Malcolm we would improve no question IMO and we would have proper competition for places.
 
Some great points tbf, this squad is done. It lost 20 games this season. If eriksen wants to leave I'll drive him there myself. Never seen such a high profile player go missing in big games. Dele is a major worry. Looks every bit a league one player with flicks and farts. Agree, build around front 3 of son kane moura
 
B-0-Sspurs said:
Good points but regarding point 2 and based on last night and recent months Eriksen can easily be replaced.

Too many of our attacking players are guaranteed to play regardless of form and that needs to change.
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100% this players like Kane and Eriksen and especially Ali have all been below par this year even when fit, and it's because they know they are playing no matter what. No surprise Son, Moura and Sissoko players fighting for there place with something to prove have carried us.

I understand Poch doesn't really have backups to both and it 100% needs addressing but I'm starting to fear Kane has a clause saying he plays no matter what he was 50% fit at best last night and it killed us was criminal he started and it's not the first time it's happened this year either.

Also on the note on Ali he has next year to prove himself to me or we should be looking at a replacement he had a fantastic year and a half no doubt but this is the second season in a row he's been very poor and struggles it seems to stay fit.
 
MVP said:
If Eriksen wants to go to Madrid, I say go ahead. He's a good player but not a top player or a world class player, he won't last at Madrid.
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Yep he is not Bale or Modric quality.

I so hope we get Ndombele, watched him a lot this season and I honestly believe he will be one of the best midfielders in world football, has everything. If Eriksen leaving gets us this guy then yes.
 
Our last game was in he final of the champions league , so by that we are where we should be , at the pinnacle of what football is .

We can beat anyone on our day & we are learning each season

Of course we can go further
 
My thoughts:

Attack:
-Sell Kane. Observing how the team has evolved over the past year or so, Kane does not fit well within the system that has recently worked for Tottenham. Keeping him is a lose lose situation for both Kane and the club.
-Build attack around Son as #1 and Moura as #2. Clearly this duo has been working on the biggest stage and against the biggest clubs. I don't see why it wouldn't work going forward. Give Son more responsibility by making him the point-person up front. He still needs to be more consistent with his finishing and perhaps his passing but he has most of the qualities (pace, quickness, skill, ball sense, ambidextrous) that would allow him to be a top 10 attacker in the world.
-I would be inclined to try and sell Ali but if not, I'd move him up into a focused attacking role alongside Moura and Son. At times, he's asked cover most of the pitch but it's clear that he's not up to the task. A more focused attacking role would be more suitable for him at this stage in his career.
-Build some depth up front by signing a player or two with a lot of PACE and ideally, HEIGHT. Doesn't need to be the most expensive players in the world. Sign these players and develop them as the club did with Son. It's becoming more and more apparent that Tottenham needs to build their identity around speed, as many of the top clubs already have been doing.

Midfield:
-Sissoko and Eriksen are untouchables in the Midfield. Everyone else is fair game.
-Despite his recent poor performances, I think a replacement for Eriksen will be extremely hard to come by and even if Tottenham does bring in someone of quality, it'll take 1-2 years for the team to gel with the new playmaker. With a little time and rest, I think Eriksen will be back to form. I would try to keep him at all costs.
-Just like the attack, Tottenham needs to build more depth in the midfield. You could see the fatigue kick in during the latter stages of the season.

Defense:
-Defense overall looked pretty solid and organized throughout the season but it needs to get younger and find replacements.
-Love Danny Rose, particularly in a system where pace is instrumental. He's indispensable in my opinion.
 
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