Gary 'the ears' Lineker is a prick - discuss

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Is Gary Lineker a massive fartfaced prick

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 26.1%
  • Super Yes

    Votes: 18 15.7%
  • Bigger yes than his ears

    Votes: 55 47.8%
  • No, I love the gooners

    Votes: 12 10.4%

  • Total voters
    115
It is NOT illegal for them to enter the UK because International Law exists that dictates they can ("they" = Refugee, Asylum Seeker, Migrant). If you are NOT a Refugee, Asylum Seeker or Migrant then it IS illegal for you to entre the UK.
I don't give a fuck
If I break the law by coming into Britain by crossing the channel in a boat, without permission to do so or valid paperwork to identify myself, then I'm fucking sure they are.

and if you are daft enough to believe that only asylum seekers are crossing this way , then I have got some shares in a nigerian diamond mine you might be interested in.
 
On an unrelated note, I've just eaten half a dozen gauavas and I'm not feeling so good.
 
Either debate or don't, how many times do you need to be told? But come at me personally and I will respond in kind as is my right.

Stick me on ignore if you are so triggered by my opinions no one is asking you to read let alone respond to them.
Debate what?

You've mugged yourself off by resorting to calling me a "cunt."
For someone who is supposedly liberal and left leaning you've shown up your own hypocrisy.

Another one who "cares" so much but spends most of his time riling up fellow supporters.
You care and are tolerant about things until someone disagrees with you then it's the typical abusive language or talk about "facts" and "debates" when there's no argument to be had.

Give it up mate, you've been done.
 
“Neo-nationalists” yet have a Ukraine flag in your name is so ironic.

The thing with people like Gary Lineker and the upper middle class and elite champagne socialists is that they are mega rich and will never have to deal with the downsides of mass immigration into this country. Its the working class that gets fucked over. Until the overspill starts effecting their areas and then suddenly its “we need a conversation about immigration”

As for Tories vs Labour. Zero difference between them. Both work for the same globalist agenda. Ones just more open about it and would do it quicker.

And the thing about this being a fascist society, if this was a real fascist society, you wouldnt even be allowed to say the things you are saying. And yet its the left that wants to control speech and deems free speech as a dangerous thing.

Have a nice day
Well said
 
I don't give a fuck
If I break the law by coming into Britain by crossing the channel in a boat, without permission to do so or valid paperwork to identify myself, then I'm fucking sure they are.

and if you are daft enough to believe that only asylum seekers are crossing this way , then I have got some shares in a nigerian diamond mine you might be interested in.

They’re all advised by twats like Calais4care to throw away all passports and forms of ID before they get here

If they were genuine asylum seekers they wouldn’t do that!
 
I don't really have a dog in this fight, as I'm unaware of the situation with many of these migrants in their own countries. No doubt there are many who are legitimately fleeing their country in fear for their lives, but is there an element that sees Britain as a route to easy money? We have a history of looking after those seeking political asylum, so I have no doubt that there are those who seek to take advantage of our largesse, but are these a small minority?

I understand and agree with the need for stricter control of our borders, there are countries out there with far stricter controls than we have, and many are democratic countries. However, I really don't know what the new policy on immigration control will be, so it's difficult to ascertain whether Lineker is mouthing opposition rhetoric, or if he genuinely has a point.

What I will say is that I have been worried for years about the direction our country is heading in, from a political perspective. Media sources essentially acting as mouthpieces for whichever party they back, rather than challenging all of them on behalf of the voting public. Our media was supposed to be the voice of the people, instead it has become a tool to herd the mob.

Cameras everywhere. London in particular has the highest camera coverage of any city on the planet, with even more going in. "Security" is cited as the reasoning, but I have serious doubts about that security.

Maybe it's paranoia on my part, but I've felt the country has been heading towards a Police State for a while now. When decadence sets in, and it has most definitely taken root in Western society, it opens the path to Fascism. When we are blaming others for our ills instead of questioning our own apathy, because our "leaders" are pointing us in that direction, subtly or not, then we are taking the first steps towards losing our own freedoms.

Freedom of speech and thought has to be fought for. If it is taken for granted then at some point we will lose it all from a gradual erosion of those freedom's. We can kid ourselves that losing one or two, for the "greater good," is acceptable, but once you start that compromise, where does it end?

History has taught us these lessons over thousands of years, yet it happens over and over again because we become complacent and can't be bothered so long as we are still getting our creature comforts.

I look at the language being used in response to Lineker's comments and can't help but feel that there is a fascist mentality at play here. They are demanding that the BBC censor him, effectively demanding that he be silenced because he questions their motives. Yes he could have used a different comparison, but I'm not so sure he's that wrong here just judging from the reaction. Instead of addressing the comments in a democratic fashion, they're shouting for him to be silenced. That is fascism, the forcible suppression of opposition.

Lineker might be an insufferable twat, but let's not allow personal dislike of a person to cloud our own reasoning. His comments may be inflammatory, but sometimes they need to be to wake up an apathetic populace. I'd rather this, where people stop and think "does he have a point," than have these media people toe a political line and either just mouth platitudes or, possibly even worse, turn a blind eye to it because they are in a position of privilege that they don't want to have taken away from them.

He may be wrong in his thinking, as may I, but if he causes enough people to question/challenge their own apathy, get them thinking for themselves rather than letting media do their thinking for them, then surely this is a good thing?
The left have been massively pro censorship for a long time now
 
Why don't they (the illegal ones in the boats) stop at France?
To be fair I think a lot of them actually do.
One of the great myths that the extreme right try and peddle is that every asylum seeker in history seeks to come to our country :disdain:. When the reality is, compared to other countries of similar size / wealth such as France or Germany, we actually take in far fewer.

I don't know. But my guess is those that try to make our shores probably already have family, friends or some other connection that makes us a more attractive proposition

Sudan was also colonised by the British for half a century or so so their links are likely to be stronger with us. Just like fefugees fleeing war torn countries once colonised by the French, Dutch, Belgians etc have a natural tendency to migrate there
 
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