Gary 'the ears' Lineker is a prick - discuss

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Is Gary Lineker a massive fartfaced prick

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 26.1%
  • Super Yes

    Votes: 18 15.7%
  • Bigger yes than his ears

    Votes: 55 47.8%
  • No, I love the gooners

    Votes: 12 10.4%

  • Total voters
    115
Fascist Tory racist party ???.... I fucking hate Tories and Labour but that's a stretch.

Remind me again which party has had 3 women leading it as PM and now has a person of colour leading the country, while the other party has mister white boring middle England preaching wokisms and cant even define what a woman is.

My family came here as immigrants, I'm all for immigration if they apply the correct way. 1000s of young men turning up on boats expecting housing, mobile phones and free cash is not what immigration is there for. It's to help those in need around the world that are persecuted or their lives are at risk.

What happens when we really are full and can't take anymore of those that really need help because we've allowed unfettered immigration to continue.
You are being very restrictive if you are basing your definition of fascist, racist behaviour on the colour of someone's skin. Just take a cursory glance at what is going on in India to blow that perception of yours clear out of the water. Or take an even more complex look at Pol Pot's totalitarian regime in Cambodia, which has had Khmer Rouge leaders described as "Hitlerite-fascists" by historians and scholars alike and those persecuted by his regime at the time described it as a "draconian, dictatorial and fascist regime".

Where are you getting this information that "these people are turning up expecting housing, mobile phones and free cash" from?

What is full?
 
With the greatest of respect mate, I think you need to first edutacte yourself on what is and isn't neo-nationalism before your want to comment on it. The fact I have a flag of another country in my bio is not ironic in any measure, it demonstrates literally the opposite of neo-Nationalism, the fact it happens to also be that of Ukraine a country that is and has been actively seeking to join the EU for a decade or so just underlines this further (although absolutely is not why I have it in my bio).

I do not give a flying fuck how much he earns, it has nothing do to with whether you agree with the comments he made about our potential fascist policy this failure of a tory government is trying to put into place, it has nothing to do with the inflammatory language they are using to get it through, the language used by Nazi's and fascist regimes since Mussolini (there literally is no difference).

This language was first used BEFORE Hitler and the Nazis came to power, I haven't said it IS a fascist society, I deliberately used the word "potential" but history is a witness to us all that this is where and how it starts. That is irrefutable and that should serve us all to be mindful of the ramifications, failure to see this and do nothing about this is a dereliction of society unless it is actually something you would agree with and what to support and are a fascist (as it is "your" individual choice to do so - that's a generic "your" not saying you personally are, I've no idea what your political/social leanings are).

I am having a great day.

*educate
 
He’s a virtue signalling hypocrite.

If everything went tits up he’s be out of this country living the high life somewhere else.
Would probably still tweet his garbage as well.
And now your just making stuff up. At least try to debate stuff with something that could resemble some actual facts. Let's stick to what he has actually said for starters.
 
You are being very restrictive if you are basing your definition of fascist, racist behaviour on the colour of someone's skin. Just take a cursory glance at what is going on in India to blow that perception of yours clear out of the water. Or take an even more complex look at Pol Pot's totalitarian regime in Cambodia, which has had Khmer Rouge leaders described as "Hitlerite-fascists" by historians and scholars alike and those persecuted by his regime at the time described it as a "draconian, dictatorial and fascist regime".

Where are you getting this information that "these people are turning up expecting housing, mobile phones and free cash" from?

What is full?



Sheeesh that's a lot of leaning going on there.

Did you know the Nazis were National Socialists 🤪 blah blah blah.
 
And now you’re just making stuff up. At least try to debate stuff with something that could resemble some actual facts. Let's stick to what he has actually said for starters.
He’s constantly doing it, this isn’t an isolated incident.

You really are an overly opinionated moron who likes to take the counter argument to everybody.

Another one who spends his life in here disagreeing with almost everyone and entrenched in your own ideology. You really are boring
 
I just wish that jug eared cunt could have lived as a Jew in 1930s Germany

He might have a different view
 
I don't really have a dog in this fight, as I'm unaware of the situation with many of these migrants in their own countries. No doubt there are many who are legitimately fleeing their country in fear for their lives, but is there an element that sees Britain as a route to easy money? We have a history of looking after those seeking political asylum, so I have no doubt that there are those who seek to take advantage of our largesse, but are these a small minority?

I understand and agree with the need for stricter control of our borders, there are countries out there with far stricter controls than we have, and many are democratic countries. However, I really don't know what the new policy on immigration control will be, so it's difficult to ascertain whether Lineker is mouthing opposition rhetoric, or if he genuinely has a point.

What I will say is that I have been worried for years about the direction our country is heading in, from a political perspective. Media sources essentially acting as mouthpieces for whichever party they back, rather than challenging all of them on behalf of the voting public. Our media was supposed to be the voice of the people, instead it has become a tool to herd the mob.

Cameras everywhere. London in particular has the highest camera coverage of any city on the planet, with even more going in. "Security" is cited as the reasoning, but I have serious doubts about that security.

Maybe it's paranoia on my part, but I've felt the country has been heading towards a Police State for a while now. When decadence sets in, and it has most definitely taken root in Western society, it opens the path to Fascism. When we are blaming others for our ills instead of questioning our own apathy, because our "leaders" are pointing us in that direction, subtly or not, then we are taking the first steps towards losing our own freedoms.

Freedom of speech and thought has to be fought for. If it is taken for granted then at some point we will lose it all from a gradual erosion of those freedom's. We can kid ourselves that losing one or two, for the "greater good," is acceptable, but once you start that compromise, where does it end?

History has taught us these lessons over thousands of years, yet it happens over and over again because we become complacent and can't be bothered so long as we are still getting our creature comforts.

I look at the language being used in response to Lineker's comments and can't help but feel that there is a fascist mentality at play here. They are demanding that the BBC censor him, effectively demanding that he be silenced because he questions their motives. Yes he could have used a different comparison, but I'm not so sure he's that wrong here just judging from the reaction. Instead of addressing the comments in a democratic fashion, they're shouting for him to be silenced. That is fascism, the forcible suppression of opposition.

Lineker might be an insufferable twat, but let's not allow personal dislike of a person to cloud our own reasoning. His comments may be inflammatory, but sometimes they need to be to wake up an apathetic populace. I'd rather this, where people stop and think "does he have a point," than have these media people toe a political line and either just mouth platitudes or, possibly even worse, turn a blind eye to it because they are in a position of privilege that they don't want to have taken away from them.

He may be wrong in his thinking, as may I, but if he causes enough people to question/challenge their own apathy, get them thinking for themselves rather than letting media do their thinking for them, then surely this is a good thing?
 
I have always been in favour of controlled immigration that is of benefit to the UK. I don't care about their country of origin. What I am against is organised crime gangs brining in immigrants illegally and if you disagree with it you are deemed a Nazi (racist was the slur du jour until the make up of the Conservative Party proved that to be nonsense).
Literally, every single side of this argument, from what I have seen, is 100% against the trafficking of people, it's immoral, disgusting and dangerous to those in a desperate situation. these gangs should feel the full force of the law and be eradicated (FWIW 3/4 of them are UK based!!!! So should be fucking simple thing to do). So, let's be 100% clear wanting these gangs eradicated does NOT make you a Nazi!! If I have got this wrong then please show me evidence of this point, I need to see it to believe it.

What IS being hated and what is being likened to Nazi or fascist policymaking is this government language and illegal policy of how they determine the laws around immigration and how this affects the individual immigrants. This is where the debate is.
 
He’s constantly doing it, this isn’t an isolated incident.

You really are an overly opinionated moron who likes to take the counter argument to everybody.

Another one who spends his life in here disagreeing with almost everyone and entrenched in your own ideology. You really are boring
A classic responce of a moron is to attack the person who holds a different view than you without even once trying to debate the topic of what they are disagreeing with.

Word of advice if you can't debate an argument without attacking the individual you disagree with then just fuck off. Just stick me on ignore, you won't get triggered by what I have to say and waste your time typing this drivel and my time having to fucking read and respond to it.
 
Literally, every single side of this argument, from what I have seen, is 100% against the trafficking of people, it's immoral, disgusting and dangerous to those in a desperate situation. these gangs should feel the full force of the law and be eradicated (FWIW 3/4 of them are UK based!!!! So should be fucking simple thing to do). So, let's be 100% clear wanting these gangs eradicated does NOT make you a Nazi!! If I have got this wrong then please show me evidence of this point, I need to see it to believe it.

What IS being hated and what is being likened to Nazi or fascist policymaking is this government language and illegal policy of how they determine the laws around immigration and how this affects the individual immigrants. This is where the debate is.

What is Labour's plan to deal with it? I mean one that they will actually implement rather than pay lip service to?
 
A classic responce of a moron is to attack the person who holds a different view than you without even once trying to debate the topic of what they are disagreeing with.

Word of advice if you can't debate an argument without attacking the individual you disagree with then just fuck off. Just stick me on ignore, you won't get triggered by what I have to say and waste your time typing this drivel and my time having to fucking read and respond to it.
I cant ever log in to this forum without seeing your "opinions" splattered across every thread.
No wonder you're defending Lineker because you care probably cut from the same cloth.

Incidentally to give you a "fact" he's been given a dressing down from the BBC for his comments so that says it all.

I mean literally, you are here all the time giving your opinion on every damn subject as if you are so informed about everything. Sometimes it's better to show some modesty and keep your mouth shut.

Does the world need more "opinions" or do we need actionable solutions instead of constant nonsense tweeted by celebs who will go with what ever message or ideolgy is fashionable or beneficial to them?

Run along now.
 
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Sheeesh that's a lot of leaning going on there.

Did you know the Nazis were National Socialists 🤪 blah blah blah.
I do you the courtesy of responding to your post with factual historical facts. If you disagree with it let's hear it.

Odd that you fail to address the questions I asked you, you either have a point or you don't. If you don't then why are you responding to mine?
 
Literally, every single side of this argument, from what I have seen, is 100% against the trafficking of people, it's immoral, disgusting and dangerous to those in a desperate situation. these gangs should feel the full force of the law and be eradicated (FWIW 3/4 of them are UK based!!!! So should be fucking simple thing to do). So, let's be 100% clear wanting these gangs eradicated does NOT make you a Nazi!! If I have got this wrong then please show me evidence of this point, I need to see it to believe it.

What IS being hated and what is being likened to Nazi or fascist policymaking is this government language and illegal policy of how they determine the laws around immigration and how this affects the individual immigrants. This is where the debate is.
You do know that it's against the laws of this country to enter the country without coming through a recognised port of entry, with a passport, and the right paperwork filled in to say you are allowed to be here - just like pretty much any country with a legal system.
People can apply for citizenship if they can show that they will be victimised for religious, political or ethnic reasons and they will be allowed in if they meet the criteria.

If you just waltz in and break our laws you are a criminal.

The penalty for doing so has now been upped to repatriation.

We have enough issues in this country, supporting a workshy section of our own society, criminals in the system that is inadequate to hold them, and massive inflation of natural resources due to the knock on effects of a significant war that is capable of going nuclear - and dickheads on here are arguing the fucking toss about Gary Linekers opinion of the illegal immigrant situation.

FMOB
 
To be clear, I know we can't cope with unlimited immigration, it has to be managed sensibly and fairly, and humanely. I just have zero faith in these cretins to be able to achieve that and I detest the divisive, nationalistic why they are communicating about it.

Boat crossings have spiralled upwards under this incompetent Tory Government - hence why they are now scrabbling to be seen to be doing something about it. It's all to distract from their disastrous Governance and their hilarious trouncing in the polls lately.
 
I cannot say I like Lineker very much but the uproar over his tweet is ridiculous. He is entitled to say what he wants on Twitter . He has not said it on Match Of The Day it is nothing to do with his work . What difference to if he said it on Question Time as a guest. Are the people trying to cancel him saying anyone who is in receipt of a salary from the BBC , or for that matter any government employee is not allowed to speak out about anything .


Clarkson was paid by the BBC for years and spouted his rhetoric constantly , wrote numerous books. Where was the outrage then about a BBC employee having his own views from these Lineker baiters

MASSIVE HYPOCRISY
 
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What is Labour's plan to deal with it? I mean one that they will actually implement rather than pay lip service to?
I don't care what labour's plan to deal with it is. They are not in power.

I am totally opposed to what this government is proposing and how they are trying to propose it. If the labour party also are in opposition to it then that makes us aligned, but I am apparently also aligned with the Green Party and the Liberal Democrats who are also opposed (I assume others too because I'm not aware of another party that is). I don't have any allegiance with any party, they aren't football teams, I don't support them, and I base my vote on their policies/manifestos and increasingly their integrity.

(If you don't like what is going on (your choice either way) then those responsible for it are those that have been in power for the past THIRTEEN years. The issue is totally down to them, no one else).
 
I wonder what jug ears would say about the thousands of Albanians that want to leave their already safe country to come to the UK solely to make more wonga ? Where would his woke- ism stop? Perhaps allow Northerners to come down South and live in his back garden to improve their lives. He can feed them scraps from the kitchen then to make himself feel even more righteous and rise to the top of the virtue signalling tree. Gary mate just stick to football and ears., stuff you know about or the beeb will have to start a programme called "Woke Pratt of the Day".
 
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