I don't disagree. It's the same the world over. You have a price you are willing to pay for the commodity you want to buy (note the word "want"). If you can't afford it, you dismiss it or save up for it. If you bargain for it, you know your limit. However, 3 bids on deadline day suggests he went in thinking he was in a strong bargaining position. He wasn't & Peace pulled his trousers down at his own game. He ought to have made his position clear ages before & left himself time to scope other options if he decided to walk away having made his highest bid. What is ridiculous is keep going back with a few quid more each time just before the shop shuts. Surely he has learned not to play games like this by now? That was a rhetorical question by the way.
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That's a great philosophy... Right up to the point that Kane is utterly ruined by playing across four competitions without relief... T'riffic.
Ive heard that Chadli is better than Kane up front
I find it funny how people assume they can, on the same basis
You mean damp squid surely
Excellent point. When did Poch realise that Chadli and Lamela could play striker? When he realised he'd been fucked up the arse over his target striker I guess...
Yes, we really wanted Berahino as a wide forward...is that why we already spent £34M on wide forwards.....to play them as strikers (but not Berahino as a striker)......even though the players we already had "can do a job as striker"?
I'm a traditional 'happy clapper' - this is some bullshit. Look, we can't change shit now, so we've got to back Poch and the players even if the club will not.
Fair enough we will see if it works out. My main point though is we still had weeks left in the window when Poch said we were actively looking for another striker (specifically he said that numerous times and that we would be bringing someone in) So to end up coming off with egg on your face and then saying it was part of the plan after all is nonsense.
Frankly, I am tired of discussing the end of our transfer window because it is all water under the bridge now. We did do some very good things this transfer window it was not a disaster by any stretch. However, we handled some things poorly in particular our pursuit of cover for Kane.
Not singling you out but some on here seem to defend EVERYTHING the club does. There has been more good than bad for the most part the last decade. However, there have been a number of mistakes made as well. We wouldn't have been through 3 managers and over a dozen players in the last few years if everything we did was perfect..
Dont really want Levy gone but I agree with the rest of it.
After the cataclysmic destruction of our heroic CL set up, and trying to get us to Stratford, Im running out of excuses.
Modric and Bale replaced with championship garbage and the ins and outs of managers who range from clueless to amature. Gone from thrilling and jaw dropping to gutless, confusing suffocatingly sterile football, where most of our attacks go back to the halfway line, rather than take a shot.
To dare is to what? Pass backwards because you are a shitter?
The youth the youth! How very romantic......problem is we have children where we once had Parker, VDV and Modric. Spend 10 years breaking into the top 4, to dismantle the entire thing and "build for the future"...
Fuck off....AVB was the next level I was told....as stupidly stubborn as he was, he still wasnt backed with his own signings, which sounds like ground hog day to me.
Oh my fucking days, I just want to rip my brain out when I think about it. And to think some cunts are loving this "era".
Fucking trial and error, hit and hope shambles. Cliched or not, I genuinely preferred it when we were mid table.
They were yes, the jammy cunts gambled all their cash to get into the top 6 regularly and then he came along and bailed them out. Not a lot between us I can agree with, but we hadn't finished in the top 6 since the late 80's and they had made a habit of it.
Just trying to add some perspective to the conversation really. Anyone would think ENIC/Lecy have been the death of this club reading on here but far from it, even if there are some glaring errors in there. I'm not saying they have been fantastic but have overall probably done more good than bad. It is a shame that the bad happened at a time when we could have really pushed on and became a force (Saha/Nelsen window, after first CL qualification)
Id be more worried (not to mention a massive bell end) if i was a goon. Their first team is thinner than ours in a lot of areas, with a terrible injury record. We were the fittest team in the league last year. Weeks and weeks without a single squad player out due to injury.
Add to that a number of very exciting prospects to call on in the cups. If only one out of Pritchard, Alli, Winks, Veljkovic, Onomah has the type of breakthrough season that Mason or Kane had last year then we are in a much healthier position than most would suggest.
Can't lie and say that i wouldn't have been happy to see Witsel or Berahino come in. They didn't. So we move on and keep the faith.
i think some people just wont accept criticism of the club.
left with 1 striker & still some defend the club.
its unreal.
its amazing how many people have a weird issue about accepting criticism.
Then you have the people whose opinions exist outside of this place and its polar discussions who would have been happy to see another striker and a DM come in, but realise that the window wasn't as bad as some would like to make out.
You seem to have white washed us missing out on Berahino (3 times on deadline day) from your memory.
Of the early signings, one was for the first team. A CB, which was arguably the least of our troubles, as the shoddy defence started with the holes in central midfield. Three of our best performers last season (Rose, Dier and Lloris) were at the back.
The problems started in front of them, so our early signing of Toby, was actually our least priority.
The other two are squad fillers.
You only have to look at our targets to know that we wanted a striker and DM....why do the goal posts keep moving?
We have 3pts from 4 games. We have scored 3 goals. Mason, Kane and Dier are not fit, and Bentaleb has lost the plot. I dont know why people keep trying to deny that our window has left us short, even with the sigings.
Out of the five, one has played, and on the pitch we have already struggled and had no options.
And people are trying to claim this is exactly how Poch wanted it.
“We have players like Chadli and Lamela, and now Njié, who can play like a striker but I think we need one more striker to be sure for different games."
Pochettino
How will you explain away that? Is it because he´s Argentinian and doesnt know what he´s saying? Or are you going to continue with the false notion that Son is a striker?
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Some more grist for the mill...
Finally it is the end of the 2015 summer transfer window. I sound relieved don’t I? The transfer window doesn’t just take its toll on managers, players and executives, but the fans as well. The constant wheel of speculation and rumours is just as exciting as it is draining. Immediately after the transfer window closed on Tuesday, the criticism of Daniel Levy was coming in thick and fast. The general consensus was that Levy had failed to adequately bolster the squad this summer. In recent days Levy has been criticised from every corner, adding fuel to the ‘Levy out” brigade. However, is this criticism really fair?
Let’s first look at the positives of the transfer window for Tottenham. We have strengthened one of the worst defences of last season, by bringing in Toby Alderwiereld, Kieran Trippier and Kevin Wimmer. Alderwiereld, last season, proved himself as one of the best centre-backs in the Premier League, and his arrival in N17 has been seen somewhat as a coup considering the shortage of quality centre-backs on the market. Trippier adds depth and quality to what was a problem position last summer, and his arrival will hopefully force an improvement in Kyle Walker’s performances this season. Wimmer is an unknown quantity, but he is young, has potential and gives us another option as a natural left-footer in the centre of defence. Mauricio Pochettino was desperate for his side to improve defensively this season, and it seems as if he has got his first choice targets to now fulfil his wish. The Club also added two young attackers in Heung-Min Son and Clinton N’Jie from Bayern Leverkusen and Lyon respectively. Both are touted as being exciting, direct, pacey young forwards who have a penchant for creating and scoring goals. For many fans, this is exactly what the side was missing last season. Although, their impact will of course depend on just how quickly they can settle into a new country, culture and league.
Apart from bringing new players in, the Club also engaged in a mass fire sale this summer which saw nine first-team players leave, including two of the most expensive flops in the Club’s history, Paulinho and Roberto Soldado. The majority of these nine had severely disappointed during their spells at the Club. Daniel Levy took the unprecedented step of selling many of these players at a loss, taking a combined £23.2 million hit on Soldado and Paulinho. Levy did this to help Pochettino, who wanted a much thinner squad this season. However, there was much frustration that the Club missed out on signing a defensive midfielder and a striker, with moves for Victor Wanyama and Saido Berainho both hitting brick walls. Some fans resorted to calling for the return of free agent, Dimitar Berbatov, such was their desperation to see the Club bring in some support for Harry Kane. Levy was castigated by fans, journalists, celebrity footballers and everybody else who wanted to jump on to the ‘Levy out’ bandwagon for this perceived failure.
Levy, since becoming Chairman of Tottenham in 2001, has overseen, and been responsible for, the transition of the Club from being lowly league finishers, to being one of the best financially run clubs in world football and being regulars in European competitions. To add to that, Levy has built a world-class training ground, and has overseen the initial development process of a new 56,000 seater stadium, that he promises will take the Club to the ‘next level’. These achievements are sadly overlooked, especially during the transfer window when fans get frustrated that Levy fails to spend the vast sums that our rivals do. Levy certainly has his faults, of that there can be no doubt. However, he is learning from past mistakes. For example, he has completely revamped the Club’s recruitment setup that has previously cost Tottenham so dearly. Furthermore, this summer Levy decided not to pay over the odds and not to panic buy. These have been pivotal mistakes that he has made in the past, which have set the Club’s development back. Just look to the 2013 summer transfer window as evidence. Pochettino’s philosophy is that it is better to wait until the right players become available at the right price, and Levy is now buying into that. There is now a long-term vision at the Club, shared by the Chairman and the Head Coach. This is something that should be celebrated by every Tottenham fan. Levy is frustrating, but he has done a huge amount for this football club and he is slowly learning from his mistakes, which will help the Club improve in the long-term. You only need to look back to the reign of Alan Sugar before criticising him too much.
Lay off Levy - SpursWeb - Tottenham Hotspur News
Finally it is the end of the 2015 summer transfer window. I sound relieved don’t I? The transfer window doesn’t just take its toll on managers, players and executives, but the fans as well. The constant wheel of speculation and rumours is just as exciting as it is draining. Immediately after the transfer window closed on Tuesday, the criticism of Daniel Levy was coming in thick and fast. The general consensus was that Levy had failed to adequately bolster the squad this summer. In recent days Levy has been criticised from every corner, adding fuel to the ‘Levy out” brigade. However, is this criticism really fair?
Let’s first look at the positives of the transfer window for Tottenham. We have strengthened one of the worst defences of last season, by bringing in Toby Alderwiereld, Kieran Trippier and Kevin Wimmer. Alderwiereld, last season, proved himself as one of the best centre-backs in the Premier League, and his arrival in N17 has been seen somewhat as a coup considering the shortage of quality centre-backs on the market. Trippier adds depth and quality to what was a problem position last summer, and his arrival will hopefully force an improvement in Kyle Walker’s performances this season. Wimmer is an unknown quantity, but he is young, has potential and gives us another option as a natural left-footer in the centre of defence. Mauricio Pochettino was desperate for his side to improve defensively this season, and it seems as if he has got his first choice targets to now fulfil his wish. The Club also added two young attackers in Heung-Min Son and Clinton N’Jie from Bayern Leverkusen and Lyon respectively. Both are touted as being exciting, direct, pacey young forwards who have a penchant for creating and scoring goals. For many fans, this is exactly what the side was missing last season. Although, their impact will of course depend on just how quickly they can settle into a new country, culture and league.
Apart from bringing new players in, the Club also engaged in a mass fire sale this summer which saw nine first-team players leave, including two of the most expensive flops in the Club’s history, Paulinho and Roberto Soldado. The majority of these nine had severely disappointed during their spells at the Club. Daniel Levy took the unprecedented step of selling many of these players at a loss, taking a combined £23.2 million hit on Soldado and Paulinho. Levy did this to help Pochettino, who wanted a much thinner squad this season. However, there was much frustration that the Club missed out on signing a defensive midfielder and a striker, with moves for Victor Wanyama and Saido Berainho both hitting brick walls. Some fans resorted to calling for the return of free agent, Dimitar Berbatov, such was their desperation to see the Club bring in some support for Harry Kane. Levy was castigated by fans, journalists, celebrity footballers and everybody else who wanted to jump on to the ‘Levy out’ bandwagon for this perceived failure.
Levy, since becoming Chairman of Tottenham in 2001, has overseen, and been responsible for, the transition of the Club from being lowly league finishers, to being one of the best financially run clubs in world football and being regulars in European competitions. To add to that, Levy has built a world-class training ground, and has overseen the initial development process of a new 56,000 seater stadium, that he promises will take the Club to the ‘next level’. These achievements are sadly overlooked, especially during the transfer window when fans get frustrated that Levy fails to spend the vast sums that our rivals do. Levy certainly has his faults, of that there can be no doubt. However, he is learning from past mistakes. For example, he has completely revamped the Club’s recruitment setup that has previously cost Tottenham so dearly. Furthermore, this summer Levy decided not to pay over the odds and not to panic buy. These have been pivotal mistakes that he has made in the past, which have set the Club’s development back. Just look to the 2013 summer transfer window as evidence. Pochettino’s philosophy is that it is better to wait until the right players become available at the right price, and Levy is now buying into that. There is now a long-term vision at the Club, shared by the Chairman and the Head Coach. This is something that should be celebrated by every Tottenham fan. Levy is frustrating, but he has done a huge amount for this football club and he is slowly learning from his mistakes, which will help the Club improve in the long-term. You only need to look back to the reign of Alan Sugar before criticising him too much.
Lay off Levy - SpursWeb - Tottenham Hotspur News
Its all very reasonable until you factor in 4 things. (1) Harry is knackered. (2) Its only his second ever season as undisputed no.9 & he has all the added pressure of coming off a stellar first season (3) We're going to be playing an absolute ton of games, including Harry turning out for England in competitive matches (4) with all of the back strikers being small and lightweight we're going to have to show some as yet unseen finesse because knocking it direct as we have been is going to see the ball pinging back at us at a very uncomfortable rate.
After calming down a bit since yesterday i've decided to not be angry with only having one striker until i've seen how this goes. Who knows, maybe it will play out just fine with Son and N'jie playing striker role once in a while and turnout to be real goal machines.
Or we'll play shite and Poch is sacked by december
Or we'll play shite and Poch is sacked by december
The point you miss is not that we should have paid 30M for him.
But we should have bid for him 7wks before our first bid on August 18. We should have known very soon after July 1st whether we could sign him or not. Then we could have moved on another target.
People acting like Spurs are a victim here, because WBA didnt sell us their player.
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Levy: Sorry Mauricio, he's not for sale
I deliberately avoided the sports news yesterday, as I had a feeling that it was going to be a damp squib. We just have to get on with it now, and hope that we don't have any serious injuries to key players. And putting on my 'glass half full' hat, at least we won't have to worry about Berahino being a waste of money!
You really believe that so the club will pull any dick we don't really need over to Spurs. Let's buy players we don't need after all THFC is a charity.
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