Our average home attendance in the 1980s was 28.3k.
Those people are now in their 60s and 70s.
Let's fucking rinse the cunts!
Those people are now in their 60s and 70s.
Let's fucking rinse the cunts!
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I really think this is a very valid point.
I think most people in their minds eye picture a retired person this springs to mind...
When the reality is (apparently 44% of Spurs ST's are +65yrs old??)
I've said for years that the biggest area for concessions at the Club should be geared towards the young. This generation is fucked, this generation is to carry the burden of the excess of the current "baby boomers" who in the history of Western civilization have never had it so good.
There are generalizations here, there will always be retired people who are struggling, a Lady I sat a few seats from at the Old Lane couldn't renew her ST for the New Stadium (neither could I in truth as our seats were front row upper east on the half way line, so went from £1200 to +£5k pa and a multi-year commitment to go like for like).
I will OPPOSE ALL ticket price increases. I will SUPPORT the notion that retired fans should have concessions BUT I believe there should be some radicle new thoughts put into place the reality is the vast majority of +65yr olds are wealthier than 22yrs olds, and isn't the point of concessions is to support those that can't afford to by a ticket?
The lifeblood of the Club is it's fans (match day fans - including those that can only get to 2 or 3 games per season, having an ST doesn't make you a more "deserving fan"). Without new young blood supporters who are priced out of the club, it threatens the very future of the live matchday experience.
I want to see young fans receive concessions AND I want to see the "elderly fan" (I don't know exactly the definition here perhaps +75yrs) get concessions. The idea that a 66yr old with a healthy pension earning him/her an income greater than that of your average 22yr old doesn't sit well at all.
A brave rethink is required, rather than sticking to outdated definitions of wealth of affordability. Always NO to ticket price rises but it's time to think creatively about where concessions should be applied.
People go to rugby, if their team loses they are not that bothered. Ruins my weekend if we lose.
Rugby was always a posh boys sport played by hooligans. Support of a football club is deep seated in communities. Football matters, and it matters a lot to a lot of people in this country. It’s difficult to explain to someone who isn’t part of it. The reason there is sometimes a lack of atmosphere at prem lge games is because there are such a lot of people just there for a day out.
The germans haven’t priced their ordinary fans out of the game so the atmosphere is great at all the games. Most football club owners in this country are there to make money, more premium seats and tourists the better.
The Villa game on Sunday is about the only thing on my mind at the moment. Will be gutted if we get beat,
COYS
Those rich pensioners have just had a 10% rise plus about 8% coming in April .I really think this is a very valid point.
I think most people in their minds eye picture a retired person this springs to mind...
When the reality is (apparently 44% of Spurs ST's are +65yrs old??)
I've said for years that the biggest area for concessions at the Club should be geared towards the young. This generation is fucked, this generation is to carry the burden of the excess of the current "baby boomers" who in the history of Western civilization have never had it so good.
There are generalizations here, there will always be retired people who are struggling, a Lady I sat a few seats from at the Old Lane couldn't renew her ST for the New Stadium (neither could I in truth as our seats were front row upper east on the half way line, so went from £1200 to +£5k pa and a multi-year commitment to go like for like).
I will OPPOSE ALL ticket price increases. I will SUPPORT the notion that retired fans should have concessions BUT I believe there should be some radicle new thoughts put into place the reality is the vast majority of +65yr olds are wealthier than 22yrs olds, and isn't the point of concessions is to support those that can't afford to by a ticket?
The lifeblood of the Club is it's fans (match day fans - including those that can only get to 2 or 3 games per season, having an ST doesn't make you a more "deserving fan"). Without new young blood supporters who are priced out of the club, it threatens the very future of the live matchday experience.
I want to see young fans receive concessions AND I want to see the "elderly fan" (I don't know exactly the definition here perhaps +75yrs) get concessions. The idea that a 66yr old with a healthy pension earning him/her an income greater than that of your average 22yr old doesn't sit well at all.
A brave rethink is required, rather than sticking to outdated definitions of wealth of affordability. Always NO to ticket price rises but it's time to think creatively about where concessions should be applied.
With the rising average age of season ticket holders due to pricing out younger fans perhaps they were worried that every holder will soon be an oap.
Semi serious.
I really think this is a very valid point.
I think most people in their minds eye picture a retired person this springs to mind...
When the reality is (apparently 44% of Spurs ST's are +65yrs old??)
I've said for years that the biggest area for concessions at the Club should be geared towards the young. This generation is fucked, this generation is to carry the burden of the excess of the current "baby boomers" who in the history of Western civilization have never had it so good.
There are generalizations here, there will always be retired people who are struggling, a Lady I sat a few seats from at the Old Lane couldn't renew her ST for the New Stadium (neither could I in truth as our seats were front row upper east on the half way line, so went from £1200 to +£5k pa and a multi-year commitment to go like for like).
I will OPPOSE ALL ticket price increases. I will SUPPORT the notion that retired fans should have concessions BUT I believe there should be some radicle new thoughts put into place the reality is the vast majority of +65yr olds are wealthier than 22yrs olds, and isn't the point of concessions is to support those that can't afford to by a ticket?
The lifeblood of the Club is it's fans (match day fans - including those that can only get to 2 or 3 games per season, having an ST doesn't make you a more "deserving fan"). Without new young blood supporters who are priced out of the club, it threatens the very future of the live matchday experience.
I want to see young fans receive concessions AND I want to see the "elderly fan" (I don't know exactly the definition here perhaps +75yrs) get concessions. The idea that a 66yr old with a healthy pension earning him/her an income greater than that of your average 22yr old doesn't sit well at all.
A brave rethink is required, rather than sticking to outdated definitions of wealth of affordability. Always NO to ticket price rises but it's time to think creatively about where concessions should be applied.
20% of pensioners are in poverty. 20% of 10mn.
16% of 16-25s are in poverty. 16% of 7.8mn.
And as I said I'm against ALL price rises. I will and have always opposed them.
In the past on here, I've actually said I was happy to pay more on my ticket if I knew it was directly funding those that couldn't afford theirs, I would be far happier if this concession went to Kids and the youth, the new generation than those that have had the experience of many years of being able to go to The Lane).
But concessions IMO are about providing assistance to those who can't afford it, not those who can.
Trust me. Levy doesn't want kids or OAPs. He wants fans with high disposable income who can buy overpriced beer, food and tat.
Mate it's far more nuanced than that, isn't it?
Where are the 16-25 years olds living?
The number of families in England and Wales with adult children living with their parents rose 13.6% between the 2011 Census and Census 2021 to nearly 3.8 million. In 2021, around 1 in every 4.5 families (22.4%) had an adult child, up from around 1 in 5 (21.2%) in 2011.
And that doesn't even take into account the London Counties where the average first-time buyer needs to be earning £90k pa to buy their first home.
The entire country is fucked thanks to this rancid Government and it's set to get a hell of a lot worse. EVERYONE is affected. The point is who can afford to go to watch Spurs play, your average 22yr old or your average 66yr old? The answer is the 65yr old. So, if we are to have concession pricing who should receive it, the 22yr old or the 66yr old. Again I appreciate this is far more nuanced than this but the idea behind concessions is there to support those that can't afford it not those that can.
Yes, I agree with this Nutter.
Unjustifiable. Probably been wanting to do it for a while but because team performance has been such a shitshow and a lot of fans being unhappy with the style of play since the end of the poch reign he hasn't been able to. Our fans being so easily pleased by a bit of attacking football has given him the window to do what's probably been on the cards for a while.
It was bound to happen sooner or later after a four season freeze. TBH I thought we were going to get hit last year when many clubs did increase their prices.
I'm not saying I agree with it (or the phasing out of the pensioner discount), but prices were not going to stay at the 2020-21 level forever. It will be interesting to see how many don't renew, but I doubt it will be more than 5% or so.
I really think this is a very valid point.
I think most people in their minds eye picture a retired person this springs to mind...
When the reality is (apparently 44% of Spurs ST's are +65yrs old??)
I've said for years that the biggest area for concessions at the Club should be geared towards the young. This generation is fucked, this generation is to carry the burden of the excess of the current "baby boomers" who in the history of Western civilization have never had it so good.
There are generalizations here, there will always be retired people who are struggling, a Lady I sat a few seats from at the Old Lane couldn't renew her ST for the New Stadium (neither could I in truth as our seats were front row upper east on the half way line, so went from £1200 to +£5k pa and a multi-year commitment to go like for like).
I will OPPOSE ALL ticket price increases. I will SUPPORT the notion that retired fans should have concessions BUT I believe there should be some radicle new thoughts put into place the reality is the vast majority of +65yr olds are wealthier than 22yrs olds, and isn't the point of concessions is to support those that can't afford to by a ticket?
The lifeblood of the Club is it's fans (match day fans - including those that can only get to 2 or 3 games per season, having an ST doesn't make you a more "deserving fan"). Without new young blood supporters who are priced out of the club, it threatens the very future of the live matchday experience.
I want to see young fans receive concessions AND I want to see the "elderly fan" (I don't know exactly the definition here perhaps +75yrs) get concessions. The idea that a 66yr old with a healthy pension earning him/her an income greater than that of your average 22yr old doesn't sit well at all.
A brave rethink is required, rather than sticking to outdated definitions of wealth of affordability. Always NO to ticket price rises but it's time to think creatively about where concessions should be applied.
Have you seen how much the state pension is?
My Mum and Dad both worked hard and were by no means poor but they struggle to live off their pension money both state and private.
At 22 you life is ahead of you and most people will earn more as they get older. When you are retired you have the money you have no more no less and you can’t always earn more to help
Yeah agree pricing was great in the stadium at the start but a joke now
I was fully prepared for a 10% hike on STs this year.
I hear all the time that the lack of availability for younger fans is an issue - having half the ground on a 50% discount for potentially 30 years really isn't a good thing
Get rid of the old fuckers and give tickets to local school kids for free
Get rid of the old fuckers and give tickets to local school kids for free
The price of food and drink seems to have crept up and up.
Gone from one of the cheapest places in Tottenham for a pint to the most expensive now.
I agree. The pie and a pint for a fiver was a great deal when it first opened, but now it's £6.59 just for a pint. I still buy a couple of beers each per match, but the food quality has gone so far downhill this season that I don't eat there anymore. I used to quite like the chicken pieces and chips, but now it's half a bag (last season it was full) of overcooked dry chicken pieces and the chips are now tasteless potato waffle things. The burger is crap and the pies are awful too.
Now they even hide the condiments and napkins at the back of the bar so you have to ask for one. WTF?
I got tickets this way when I was at secondary school in Burnt Oak/Colindale around 40 years ago.
And the quality has got much worse. At the beginning it was actually 'reasonably' priced and decent quality.
Now it is around £11 for something that is just about edible.
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