Sorry, meant to quote Adasai, not you. Not sure how I did that, but will delete.
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Sorry, meant to quote Adasai, not you. Not sure how I did that, but will delete.
Mason got injured in January, never played again, never got relegated with Hull.
You are massively over critical of both Mason and Bentaleb. who did a good job for us - and were probably our best players in that cup final (the players that shouldn't have played were Townsend and Chadli) and it's not like we even got to a cup final with Dembele (losing qtr's and semi finals).
Mason was a decent footballer, with good energy who was also tenacious, I'd have him in this midfield ahead of donkeys like Dier and Sissoko all day long, lets not pretend the shit we've been watching in midfield for the last two years before this one has been any better than Mason and Bentaleb was.
It's weird, I feel like I should care more about his lack of match fitness but he's so damned good when he is on the pitch that I forget about it.
Surely, barring any actual underlying medical problem, he'll get up to speed eventually?
Surely, barring any actual underlying medical problem, he'll get up to speed eventually?
Dembele of course was the best CM we’ve had since Modric left. After him there is no clear second best, as Mason, Bentaleb, Sissoko, Dier, Winks, and Wanyama have all had good and bad spells. What is clear is Tanguy has something special that none of the aforementioned players have, except Dembele. We’ll just have to wait and see if he can actually produce it consistently or end up mostly a flop like Pogba.
It's weird, I feel like I should care more about his lack of match fitness but he's so damned good when he is on the pitch that I forget about it.
Surely, barring any actual underlying medical problem, he'll get up to speed eventually?
Its just a stick to beat him with when he performs slightly under par.
When he was scoring goals against Villa and our best player at the Etihad, I don't really remember his fitness being questioned. Though I imagine that could be as it was at the beginning of the season.
I think it's probably coming more from those who haven't really seen him play before and were perhaps expecting double digits in goals and assists due to his price tag.
Nah.....
The fitness thing is what it is. Doesn't mean those acknowledging it haven't seen a player in him on occasion..... The manger for instance.
Away in a manger??!!....
The stupidity on these forums is contagious. I am now one of them.
I thought we weren't going to name individuals as examples but you obviously couldn't help yourself. Not only that, but Greaves' time and eventual departure from AC Milan bares no resemblance to Ndombele's case. And you're still banging on about language and culture - which cultural aspects of Britain are you specifically thinking of that could in any way affect his performance on the pitch? As for language, Sergio Aguero can barely put two words of English together after 11 years in the UK... hardly affected his output has it?
Are you qualified to have internet?
Ok, now I know you're trolling.
I'll put it as simply as I can.
Every person is different, some can settle quickly and others can take longer and some can't settle at all.
And I'll ignore your posts because you have nothing else to add to your pathetic argument.
You ignored everything I wrote in my previous post and retreated to your initial mantra of 'every person is different'.... nice one, showing Einstein levels of awareness there. What other examples of your genius will you bestow upon us next, people need oxygen to live, eventually everyone will die. Can't wait for the words of wisdom.
The last resort of a desperate man, abuse. Oh well.
So, let's get back to your original post and I'll address what you said.
You then used Aguero as an example of a player who came to the PL , hit the ground running, scored goals and was a hit straight away, to try and prove your point. TBF you're not wrong in using him as an example for players that "start productively from day one".
So, I assume that as you expect this from every player, that you would of binned Son off after his first year with us. He was playing shite, had no confidence, and he himself asked for a transfer because he wasn't playing anywhere near his ability. He had to be persuaded to stay and proved what a great player he actually is.
For every Aguero, there is a Son. Surely even you would admit that ?
Or have I misunderstood your point ?
It's weird, I feel like I should care more about his lack of match fitness but he's so damned good when he is on the pitch that I forget about it.
Surely, barring any actual underlying medical problem, he'll get up to speed eventually?
His lack of fitness or whatever is almost endearing.
Makes me cherish those moments he does play more.
If we got full 90s every week our dopamine receptors would be fried from his orgasmic abilities.
Mason was a terrible footballer mate. Always in the wrong place and a headless chicken. He would lose players in midfield , panic and slide around like a maniac and had no clue of what to do with the ball except lump it forward aimlessly. He wasnt even half as useful as Sissoko or 15/16 Dier and definitely worse than Winks as well. He was hyped up by the 'one of our own' nutcases. Bentaleb was slightly more useful but just look at how his career is going as well.
Also we did get to the final of that cup with Dembele playing in the samis. In fact, we scored after he replaced Mason in the first leg. Also started the second leg, played for 2/3rds of that match too , we were up 2-0 then he goes off and we conceded 2 goals.
Hull were bottom of the table when Mason got injured and got relegate after. I remember that because some nutters were talking about how we miss Mason when were actually fighting at the top of the league and he was rotting at the bottom, which was quite stupid.