Sammy, sometimes your replies are so good. This would be one of them because it's universal and true.You know when a player is shit because some journo needs to drag out a pie chart to tell you he’s good
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Sammy, sometimes your replies are so good. This would be one of them because it's universal and true.You know when a player is shit because some journo needs to drag out a pie chart to tell you he’s good
Are you rating his 'assists' that were a) a ball stolen off him by Lucas after his bumbling and b) a pass meant for another player that his teammate(s) recognized and even his manager does (football.london article where Rose informs Poch the 3rd goal was a pass meant for Llorente)?Second half against Ajax, second leg. But no.....nothing else springs to mind.
The revisionist history in this thread is unbelievable by the way.
Go read 258-290 in this thread, which is August 2018 - early March this year when he got back from his hamstring injury that kept him out 7 weeks.
But he’s been shit for years apparently.
I’m going to back some of what you say here....he didn’t have a good tournament, and we’ve seen Dele play like this for us too.
However he was injured in the first game, and should have been (wait for it) rotated way more.
He is growing up as a player, but by clipping his wings, we’ve lost the spark.
I don’t think we’ll ever see that kid from the first two breakthrough years and that’s a tragedy, but what we will see is a more disciplined refined version, with moments of magic, and more team play.
A blast from the past, I’ve highlighted the key portion.
Dele literally, literally does exactly this last year by playing deeper, breaking up play and contributing with more all around team play. Also has a 13 goals and assists pace in the league if he played the entire season, which while lower than the 20+ he had been been producing before, is still good for deeper midfielder and the fact that Son and Lucas have stepped up their goal tallies significantly means he will naturally score less in that setup.
TOTAL SHIT GUYS CLEARLY.
First start back from a 3.5 month layoff. Only thing that will do Dele in is his hamstring in my opinion. If he’s still in poor form going into the November international break, then I will be concerned, because that will be the first prolonged stretch of him actually playing poorly when fully fit. He needs to be reintegrated with the squad and Poch needs to figure out how best to use him, because he’s too good not to be a major contributor in one way or another.
I guarantee that when we revisit this thread in December you'll have a different excuseA blast from the past, I’ve highlighted the key portion.
Dele literally, literally does exactly this last year by playing deeper, breaking up play and contributing with more all around team play. Also has a 13 goals and assists pace in the league if he played the entire season, which while lower than the 20+ he had been been producing before, is still good for deeper midfielder and the fact that Son and Lucas have stepped up their goal tallies significantly means he will naturally score less in that setup.
TOTAL SHIT GUYS CLEARLY.
First start back from a 3.5 month layoff. Only thing that will do Dele in is his hamstring in my opinion. If he’s still in poor form going into the November international break, then I will be concerned, because that will be the first prolonged stretch of him actually playing poorly when fully fit. He needs to be reintegrated with the squad and Poch needs to figure out how best to use him, because he’s too good not to be a major contributor in one way or another.
agree, but he wasn't the only one TBFHis lack of effort when Olympiacos had the ball was scandalous.
I know that, Mrs P. But what's his excuse?agree, but he wasn't the only one TBF
he hasn't had a lot of playing time? I tend to give players the benefit of the doubt but agree that he needs to buck up his ideas, Saturday would be a good start.I know that, Mrs P. But what's his excuse?
No excuse for strolling around from the first whistle, which is what he was doing.he hasn't had a lot of playing time? I tend to give players the benefit of the doubt but agree that he needs to buck up his ideas, Saturday would be a good start.
No you won't. This is just another denial tactic. You will find another excuse to continue to believe what you have already convinced yourself of presently. It will be until the evidence is so profound, in such an abundance so as to make you look foolish before you accept the reality that is before you. People don't move from denial to reasoned acceptance in the way you are stating. They move from denial to irrational anger because they feel then the player has let them down. It's a way to avoid saying "I was wrong".If he’s still in poor form going into the November international break, then I will be concerned, because that will be the first prolonged stretch of him actually playing poorly when fully fit.
If only he was HALF as good as he thinks he is....If only he was as good as he thinks he is ........
He's playing shit and has been for ages. I was desperate for us to sign Bruno Fernandes in the transfer window as an (effective) replacement for Dele.Oh shit, you posted something? Wow, I think I’ll look at the literally hundreds other posts, articles, and statistics from last season where people are saying he is great and indispensable.
The fact is that Dele played well from August until he went out injured in early February. He played in a much deeper role due to our lack of midfield options, which meant his goals and assists went down, but his midfield work (pressures, buildup) increased. Since March he hasn’t had a run of matches to get into form, mostly due to injuries (broken hand in April, hamstring in August).
So now a few months of getting back to match fitness as turned into a few years of being shit by a vocal minority. If you want to say his reoccurring hamstring injury is an issue then that’s one thing. But the fact of the matter if that Dele has been a bang on starter for 4 years for a good reason - he’s one of the best young midfielders in the world, and he has been for a long time.
I see where you coming from but no time for kindness and nicety, we need a good decent performance on Saturday, drop him and let him prove his worth against Colchester next week.he hasn't had a lot of playing time? I tend to give players the benefit of the doubt but agree that he needs to buck up his ideas, Saturday would be a good start.
To me it was his telepathic relationship with Kane that defined him. He had a lot of injuries last season. I'm hoping he finds his form as peak Dele makes spurs a joy to watch. I do miss his nasty streak too though.The thing that defined peak Dele was that nasty little edge to his game, he'd get in peoples faces, fly into tackles, niggle and ok occasionally that got him sent off, but so be it.
I thought to myself we have a winner here, this is how winners act, see Roy Keane.
But all that has gone from his game, I can't believe that's down to Poch as I think Poch would appreciate that kind of fire and not want to extinguish it.
Could be Gareth Beige and the England setup? perhaps.
I think its probably his life outside of football if I had to hazard a guess.
but without that edge he just isn't the same player anymore, its like a pale shadow