It wouldn't matter who we play we would be in a game and would need to dig deep whether Wigan,Southampton or who ever!
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Thats what we have ahead, lets do both and we can do both, why not.
It is important, its a trophy. Its not a netter of choosing. Win every game regardless. we could end up 5th and lose in the semi, thats football.
In the long run? Not much at all.
Winning the FA Cup won't keep players at the club. Not a single player is going to sit back after the FA Cup win and say to himself "Oh, I feel like staying here now because we won the FA Cup"
It's a great day out, a great occasion and a GREAT memory if we win it and it will stop people going on about needing trophies etc.
I do however feel like it COULD be a catalyst in helping us win things in future. To know what it feels like to win a trophy shrouded in history. To get a taste of that winning feeling, BEING champions of something.
Winning the FA Cup won't keep players at the club. Not a single player is going to sit back after the FA Cup win and say to himself "Oh, I feel like staying here now because we won the FA Cup"
It's a great day out, a great occasion and a GREAT memory if we win it and it will stop people going on about needing trophies etc.
I do however feel like it COULD be a catalyst in helping us win things in future. To know what it feels like to win a trophy shrouded in history. To get a taste of that winning feeling, BEING champions of something.
Horses for courses.Those FA cup wins really helped the scum keep hold of Alexis
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to win the thing, but it's not got the prestige it used to, and winning it wont suddenly lead to use winning the league every couple years.
FAC: I feel its all about getting a winning mentality in a cup. We've lost a final and a semi and need to get that out of our system.
CL: The CL campaign was excellent this season and winning our group against all the odds, for me, took us to the next level against very good Europe sides.
PL: We are at a level were we can beat teams outside the top 6 and top 6 at home. We need to get them away results against top 6 to move us on for the title.
It would mean the media and shithoue pundits would have to find something else to chat shit about.
"Spurs need to win trophies to keep their players" would be a thing of the past just like the Wembley Hoodoo bollocks,
Oh - it would also be brilliant for us fans.
"Spurs need to win trophies to keep their players" would be a thing of the past just like the Wembley Hoodoo bollocks,
Oh - it would also be brilliant for us fans.
What you have basically just said is that the CL puts on us on a par with the likes of Real, Barca, Bayern etc. That we become an attractive option as those clubs when reality states otherwise. You only have to look at Liverpool who were unable to retain the likes of Alonso, Mascherano, Suarez and Coutinho despite having CL football as testament to how false this belief is.
Where was the mass exodus when we previously failed to secure CL football? It didn’t happen and it won’t simply because there are only a handful of clubs that can sign our players and they will do so whether we are in the CL or not. Do you honestly think Real would be deterred by us being in the CL, it is pure fantasy to believe that. What this club needs more than anything is win something because it’s not a question of if this team will break up it is when.
As I said before the significance of the CL is being massively overstated. Qualification is simply not enough you have to actually be successful in this to generate revenue. We made £41 million last time, that doesn’t even afford Moussa Sissoko in today’s market ( fee and wages) so the notion that it will enable us to retain our best players is severely misguided.
I think that all of a sudden the need to win something rhetoric will have to change from the media.
I think that all of a sudden there will be less questioning of the manager and his process, and proof that it yields results.
We really do need to win some silverware, not to retain players, but to retain our position as one of England's bigger clubs. 1991 is too long ago, I'm getting old waiting for a proper win.
I think that all of a sudden there will be less questioning of the manager and his process, and proof that it yields results.
We really do need to win some silverware, not to retain players, but to retain our position as one of England's bigger clubs. 1991 is too long ago, I'm getting old waiting for a proper win.
No. Let's say we're competing with a club like Liverpool to sign a player from Ajax or Dortmund. Let's say Liverpool finished in the top four and we finished fifth but won the FA Cup. Where is the player likely to move to?
You are essentially arguing that champions league football is neither here nor there; that its impact on our finances and reputation is negligible. This is wrong. You keep mentioning £41m . I assume this is prize money. I'll also assume that you're ignoring any indirect revenue from participation in the world's most prestigious tournament.
If the Champions League is the waste of time you suggest it is, why do all the clubs in Europe want to win a place in it? Maybe they just like the music. It is nice music.
What would it mean?
Perhaps an end to the constant melting and carping about us not having silverware to show for our efforts
Wigan won the thing a few years ago which should put it into perspective
Yes it would be nice but certainly not at the expense of a top four finish which allows us to compete with the big boys and this season we did compete at the highest level and distinguished ourselves accordingly
Ask Juve, RM and Dortmund
But I want to win every game
Perhaps an end to the constant melting and carping about us not having silverware to show for our efforts
Wigan won the thing a few years ago which should put it into perspective
Yes it would be nice but certainly not at the expense of a top four finish which allows us to compete with the big boys and this season we did compete at the highest level and distinguished ourselves accordingly
Ask Juve, RM and Dortmund
But I want to win every game
Spot on, Nutty
He's most likely to move to whichever club offers the most money.
Pretty much.
Pogba going to Man Utd despite them offering zero Champions League football pretty much confirms this.
In that case, just move to China.
What would it mean...
It would mean we have finally put Chelsea to bed in the FA Cup....
Fucking Chelsea cunts 0-1 up and don’t ya know and I know? Chelsea v Spurs will be the draw and we will be the “away” team....Christ sooner the Russian is kicked out the better
Edit. 1-1 - it’s the hope that kills you
It would mean we have finally put Chelsea to bed in the FA Cup....
Fucking Chelsea cunts 0-1 up and don’t ya know and I know? Chelsea v Spurs will be the draw and we will be the “away” team....Christ sooner the Russian is kicked out the better
Edit. 1-1 - it’s the hope that kills you
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Don’t be silly, he would forgo CL football if he moved to a club that proved it has that winning mentality by winning the FA cup!
Leciester won the league a few seasons back that should put it into perspective right?
I love this Wigan devalued arguement, it’s almost as this never happened in the tournaments supposed glory days. It’s not as if we lost to Coventry in a final right?
To the club that pays the most and the one that offers the best prospects over the duration of the contact period on offer. I very much doubt any player who commit themselves to a club and contract purely on the basis on one CL qualification, that would be folly.
And yes I am stating that it is here nor there, it’s significance has been massively overstated. Clubs favour this because they are now primarily commercial entities and will always prioritise revenue streams. And it’s not the world most prestigious tournament that is the PL which dominates globally.
Call me old fashioned, but I would love to win it.
It’s not old fashioned it’s called common sense.
In your world, champions league qualification does not positively contribute to the prospects of the club that gains it.