We should take him back and loan him to Derby / Burnley / Leicester, just to piss of Harry Redknapp 
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Sheffield Wednesday's fans on Ross Barkley:
"He wasn't that good for us."
"And people said he was overrated and not good enough....I'm 100% sure he'll play for England within a year."
"He has unbelievable natural ability. But he didn't fit in our system, and we had to change our formation to incorporate him"
"Thought he did okay for us as a young lad in a struggling team. "
"He looks totally at home in the prem, but with us he looked like a fish out of water, not just us but L***s too."
"Good player, but wrong time for us."
Not saying Tom Carroll is going to turn in to Ross Barkley but that gives some perspective. And baring in mind when Carroll started appearing in the EL, the year before he was at Derby on a very poor loan spell.
Generally players will perform a whole lot better the higher quality the players are around them.
Sheffield Wednesday's fans on Ross Barkley:
"He wasn't that good for us."
"And people said he was overrated and not good enough....I'm 100% sure he'll play for England within a year."
"He has unbelievable natural ability. But he didn't fit in our system, and we had to change our formation to incorporate him"
"Thought he did okay for us as a young lad in a struggling team. "
"He looks totally at home in the prem, but with us he looked like a fish out of water, not just us but L***s too."
"Good player, but wrong time for us."
Not saying Tom Carroll is going to turn in to Ross Barkley but that gives some perspective. And baring in mind when Carroll started appearing in the EL, the year before he was at Derby on a very poor loan spell.
Generally players will perform a whole lot better the higher quality the players are around them.
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Yeah but he sure plays a mean through ball
Well played Tommy, well played son.
who actually gives a fuck about our "relations" with Southampton?
There's no bandwagon for firing our manager, so we have to be anti-someone (other than Ade).
He's not going to be anything special IMO. They ran through him a lot but to be fair he and Rose were targeted.
It was a good game for him to play in but I think it answers the question that he's not ready to step up.
We looked vulnerable with him in the middle. Rose, Etiksen and Chadli can be chaotic so you need so something solid in that deeper position.
It was a good game for him to play in but I think it answers the question that he's not ready to step up.
We looked vulnerable with him in the middle. Rose, Etiksen and Chadli can be chaotic so you need so something solid in that deeper position.
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One positive of note is that on the occasions he misplaced a pass, he almost always won it back again by chasing it down. Bit like Lamela does.
No.Much better prospect than "German U21 captain" holtby IMO.
Just goes to show that glittering foreign gold can blind you to a diamond under your nose.
Poor old Steffan Freund, I was reliably told he would be bringing the best and brightest to the Lane.
:avbfacepalm:
Not bad could have been better.
My mum helped me tick one of them off. Just wish she could have cooked me steak as well.
I really love this kid's forward thinking mind.
He's always looking to attack, and always tries to pass forward (not sideways/backwards) in order to set up something.
I really hopes he fulfills his potential and turns out to be a Steven Gerrard of this club.
# futurenumber8
He's always looking to attack, and always tries to pass forward (not sideways/backwards) in order to set up something.
I really hopes he fulfills his potential and turns out to be a Steven Gerrard of this club.
# futurenumber8
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Cut and Pace from QPRs website
http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/060913-carroll-minute-by-minute-1039229.aspx?
A look at QPR midfielder's highlights from his England Under-21 appearance against Moldova …
NEW QPR midfielder Tom Carroll made his first start for England Under-21s on Thursday night as they beat Moldova 1-0 in their UEFA European Under-21 Championship Group One qualifier. We take a look at Carroll’s involvement in the fixture.
KICK-OFF: Tom Carroll and Saido Berahino get the match underway for England.
13’ GOAL: Carroll slides Berahino in on goal from 30-yards to score the opener. The West Bromwich Albion forward turns Moldova’s Constantine Bogdan on the edge of the box before beating keeper Alexei Kosheleev at his near post. 1-0.
16’ Carroll crosses into the Moldova box but the visitors clear the danger.
19’ A neat one-two with Nathan Redmond allows the Norwich City winger to shoot over from distance before Carroll handles the ball and gives away a free-kick.
23’ QPR’s new midfielder puts Redmond in from 35-yards with a defence-splitting pass but the England winger finds himself in an offside position.
31’ Chance for England as Carroll’s cross drops in the box but forward Berahino fails to get his head on the ball.
32’ Real opportunity for the Spurs loanee to open his account at the Madejski Stadium. Nathaniel Chalobah plays an unmarked Carroll in on goal but his powerful shot from 16-yards is tipped over for a corner by keeper Koshelev.
34’ Carroll's effort from 25-yards goes wide of the left-hand post.
57’ Referee Nikola Dabanovic stops play as he adjudges Carroll to have fouled Moldova’s Ivan Prodan and Eugen Zasaviitchi.
59’ Carroll fires another long-range shot in on goal but unfortunately it goes over the bar.
62’ A fine moment of skill sees Carroll trick his way past Bogdan before beating another two Moldovan players. Unfortunately his shot from the edge of the box warms the hands of the keeper.
66’ England make a substitution as Derby County’s Will Hughes replaces James Ward-Prowse. Boss Gareth Southgate opts to drop Carroll deeper from his more attacking role.
79’ Carroll’s corner finds Luke Shaw who volleys over the crossbar from the edge of the box.
92’ England fail to wrap up the victory in injury time as Carroll dinks a delightful ball over the top of the Moldova back line. He picks out Tottenham team-mate Harry Kane who back heels to Hughes and watches on as Iurie Mirza clears off the line for the visitors.
FULL-TIME: The referee blows his whistle with Carroll in possession as England record a 1-0 win on his first start.
Read more at http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/060913-carroll-minute-by-minute-1039229.aspx?#hqqr80kADiC3zlji.99
http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/060913-carroll-minute-by-minute-1039229.aspx?
A look at QPR midfielder's highlights from his England Under-21 appearance against Moldova …
NEW QPR midfielder Tom Carroll made his first start for England Under-21s on Thursday night as they beat Moldova 1-0 in their UEFA European Under-21 Championship Group One qualifier. We take a look at Carroll’s involvement in the fixture.
KICK-OFF: Tom Carroll and Saido Berahino get the match underway for England.
13’ GOAL: Carroll slides Berahino in on goal from 30-yards to score the opener. The West Bromwich Albion forward turns Moldova’s Constantine Bogdan on the edge of the box before beating keeper Alexei Kosheleev at his near post. 1-0.
16’ Carroll crosses into the Moldova box but the visitors clear the danger.
19’ A neat one-two with Nathan Redmond allows the Norwich City winger to shoot over from distance before Carroll handles the ball and gives away a free-kick.
23’ QPR’s new midfielder puts Redmond in from 35-yards with a defence-splitting pass but the England winger finds himself in an offside position.
31’ Chance for England as Carroll’s cross drops in the box but forward Berahino fails to get his head on the ball.
32’ Real opportunity for the Spurs loanee to open his account at the Madejski Stadium. Nathaniel Chalobah plays an unmarked Carroll in on goal but his powerful shot from 16-yards is tipped over for a corner by keeper Koshelev.
34’ Carroll's effort from 25-yards goes wide of the left-hand post.
57’ Referee Nikola Dabanovic stops play as he adjudges Carroll to have fouled Moldova’s Ivan Prodan and Eugen Zasaviitchi.
59’ Carroll fires another long-range shot in on goal but unfortunately it goes over the bar.
62’ A fine moment of skill sees Carroll trick his way past Bogdan before beating another two Moldovan players. Unfortunately his shot from the edge of the box warms the hands of the keeper.
66’ England make a substitution as Derby County’s Will Hughes replaces James Ward-Prowse. Boss Gareth Southgate opts to drop Carroll deeper from his more attacking role.
79’ Carroll’s corner finds Luke Shaw who volleys over the crossbar from the edge of the box.
92’ England fail to wrap up the victory in injury time as Carroll dinks a delightful ball over the top of the Moldova back line. He picks out Tottenham team-mate Harry Kane who back heels to Hughes and watches on as Iurie Mirza clears off the line for the visitors.
FULL-TIME: The referee blows his whistle with Carroll in possession as England record a 1-0 win on his first start.
Read more at http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/060913-carroll-minute-by-minute-1039229.aspx?#hqqr80kADiC3zlji.99
Did any itk'er foresee this?