Summer 2015 Transfer Window DISCUSSION Thread

[Steed_Train]

You miss the part he listed the stuff he called which came true?

Those are very credible things, obviously he will be wrong about some stuff due to the ever-changing market/negotiations etc.

You've missed the whole point of my post.

 

[Team Tanguy]

You've missed the whole point of my post.

Well you called his record shit.
But to your main point- so what if the guy is open?

He's clearly someone going through a lot of bad shit who decided to let people know in order to understand that he used to use the forum as a place to escape, chat Spurs etc but now he gets abuse from whiners so it's not even that anymore. Totally different to trying to get sympathy at the expense of his family for having a "shit ITK record". In all honesty you're more a cunt for accusing him of that.

 

[ILSpur]

GET YOUR OWN SCOUTS!!!!

Oh, wait...

 

[Boltonspur]

Well you called his record shit.
But to your main point- so what if the guy is open?

He's clearly someone going through a lot of bad shit who decided to let people know in order to understand that he used to use the forum as a place to escape, chat Spurs etc but now he gets abuse from whiners so it's not even that anymore. Totally different to trying to get sympathy at the expense of his family for having a "shit ITK record". In all honesty you're more a cunt for accusing him of that.

Seriously? I don't wish to sound like a total cunt, & I sympathise with his personal issues, but anyone who "escapes" by making up a bunch of falsehoods & claiming to be somebody with an insider knowledge... Really is making their own life a million times worse by escaping to a world of fabricating to other people to get attention. Because what are those people likely to say or think when the person is exposed in a very public way like over the Internet? I sympathise with every single personal issue @Japser has but don't inflict an imaginary world on everyone else & expect to be treated seriously when it all turns out to be a figment of the imagination, designed to draw attention. His ITK is rubbish. End of. Sorry to sound cruel. But people who put themselves out as in the know should expect to be ridiculed when nearly everything they say is crap. Even I could get the odd rumour going & be right once in a while.

 

[Team Tanguy]

Seriously? I don't wish to sound like a total cunt, & I sympathise with his personal issues, but anyone who "escapes" by making up a bunch of falsehoods & claiming to be somebody with an insider knowledge... Really is making their own life a million times worse by escaping to a world of fabricating to other people to get attention. Because what are those people likely to say or think when the person is exposed in a very public way like over the Internet? I sympathise with every single personal issue @Japser has but don't inflict an imaginary world on everyone else & expect to be treated seriously when it all turns out to be a figment of the imagination, designed to draw attention. His ITK is rubbish. End of. Sorry to sound cruel. But people who put themselves out as in the know should expect to be ridiculed when nearly everything they say is crap. Even I could get the odd rumour going & be right once in a while.

To stop going in circles my last post on this-
"I was the first one from memory to expose the signing of Dos Santos, with blow by blow. First one to share the a runtime and place of David Bentley's signing. First one to share Steffen Freund coming back in coaching role. First one to share about USA involvement etc with the stadium. First one to hint about the roof a give away.

First one to put nads on the line that Hugo Lloris would give it one more year, when the populace was he was going"

is not crap ITK. He clearly has some credible links. Being willing to share info you hear should not mean you're fair game for abuse, especially when you pass it on in good faith. Obviously me and you know that that's the internet these days- people love to talk shit, but for a guy like Jasper who is an old boy these trolls and their vitriol will be fairly new to him.

 

[ILSpur]

To stop going in circles my last post on this-
"I was the first one from memory to expose the signing of Dos Santos, with blow by blow. First one to share the a runtime and place of David Bentley's signing. First one to share Steffen Freund coming back in coaching role. First one to share about USA involvement etc with the stadium. First one to hint about the roof a give away.

First one to put nads on the line that Hugo Lloris would give it one more year, when the populace was he was going"

is not crap ITK. He clearly has some credible links. Being willing to share info you hear should not mean you're fair game for abuse, especially when you pass it on in good faith. Obviously me and you know that that's the internet these days- people love to talk shit, but for a guy like Jasper who is an old boy these trolls and their vitriol will be fairly new to him.

That may all be true, but claiming that he did all of these things and the reality of them may be two completely different things. A broken clock is right two times a day, do we really know he was accurate about these things or just believing him outright?

 

[Boltonspur]

To stop going in circles my last post on this-
"I was the first one from memory to expose the signing of Dos Santos, with blow by blow. First one to share the a runtime and place of David Bentley's signing. First one to share Steffen Freund coming back in coaching role. First one to share about USA involvement etc with the stadium. First one to hint about the roof a give away.

First one to put nads on the line that Hugo Lloris would give it one more year, when the populace was he was going"

is not crap ITK. He clearly has some credible links. Being willing to share info you hear should not mean you're fair game for abuse, especially when you pass it on in good faith. Obviously me and you know that that's the internet these days- people love to talk shit, but for a guy like Jasper who is an old boy these trolls and their vitriol will be fairly new to him.

Was he actually the first to break these various bits of news though? Again, I don't wish to sound the cunt, but has anyone verified that he was the first to break this stuff to The masses? If he puts himself out there as someone in the know & wants to be taken seriously then he should know you are only as good as your latest info. & his latest ratifications in terms of signings (an area in which he claims to excel) appears to be David Bentley & Dos Santos. His recent hit rate is bloody rubbish. I will say no more in case it becomes too disrespectful to a bloke who appears to be having problems...but he should stop making up obtuse rumours to make himself feel better. Or shouldn't be too upset when people mock him if he carries on with them.

 

[Team Tanguy]

That may all be true, but claiming that he did all of these things and the reality of them may be two completely different things. A broken clock is right two times a day, do we really know he was accurate about these things or just believing him outright?

AFAIK he called all these things like he said. Wouldn't say it's a matter of him throwing loads of predictions, these are very specific things.

 

[yiddo2786]

Maybe we should try to buy Victor Anichebe from WBA instead, they have 4 or 5 strikers, we only have 1 and only have Magic Beans or a Cow to offer for any others

Jesus fucking Christ man is this where we are now? Just four years from £35m deadline day bids for Sergio Aguero to weighing up bids for Victor fucking Anichebe, because we couldn't get West Brom's best striker who has 19 goals in 72 games? :dembelewtf:

 

[ILSpur]

AFAIK he called all these things like he said. Wouldn't say it's a matter of him throwing loads of predictions, these are very specific things.

I may just be such a cynic at this point and I frankly don't pay too much attention to which of the supposed "ITK's" said what and when, but I would imagine that even if he did say those things, his list of incorrect statements probably outweighs it at least 5:1. Sure those are very specific things, but I'd be interested in how many other very specific things he's gotten wrong. Oh, but he won't list those though, will he?

I'm not advocating that these guys should get loads of shit and have people attack them, but I just don't see why anyone should actually pay attention to any of them. If there was a true ITK, we'd all know about it because the person would be right far more times than wrong and we would all take notice of it.

 

[cult_persnality]

Jesus fucking Christ man is this where we are now? Just four years from £35m deadline day bids for Sergio Aguero to weighing up bids for Victor fucking Anichebe, because we couldn't get West Brom's best striker who has 19 goals in 72 games?

Sadly thats true few yrs back we were going head on with likes of chevesky n Woolwich for targets , snatching players away from Liverpools but today we dont even get mentioned in their transfers ,they are landing benzimas n bentekes while we are struggling with Charlie austin

 

[Jayc1]

because we couldn't get West Brom's best striker who has 19 goals in 72 games? :dembelewtf:

29 goals in 83 games = A goal every 2.8 games, for a player who is 22.

+ 8 assists = Directly led to a goal every 2.4 games in a poor team, and is improving every month, never mind year. Yeah, he's proper shit.

Find me a 22 year old striker who has a 1/2 goal ratio in a top 3 Leagueand would be cheaper, please. Baffles me how people still put Berahino down.

 

[therealITK]

Heading into our third match without any new signings and Njie may not even be able to play yet. Adebayor and Lennon who know they are not part of the plans have been here all summer taking their wages. Great job Levy. Also Poch getting found out by the week. When your team is just a bunch of kids hour consistent and mentally strong are they really? Poch is afraid someone will come in and realize behind the friendliness that he's a fraud.

Re: Jasper
Took him that long to fabricate his life story? ITK act like cunts. They expect you to worship at their feet because they pass along info but everything they've said this summer has been lies. So don't expect people to be nice when you've been spinning lies and wasting people's time. I don't believe his background but if it's true, all the more you shouldn't be telling lies. She has got cancer and you muck about on Spurs forums? Death of siblings, yeah you know what, nope, this guy just seems like a kid whining it isn't his fault after being found out.

 

[therealITK]

Heading into our third match without any new signings and Njie may not even be able to play yet. Adebayor and Lennon who know they are not part of the plans have been here all summer taking their wages. Great job Levy. Also Poch getting found out by the week. When your team is just a bunch of kids hour consistent and mentally strong are they really? Poch is afraid someone will come in and realize behind the friendliness that he's a fraud.

Re: Jasper
Took him that long to fabricate his life story? ITK act like cunts. They expect you to worship at their feet because they pass along info but everything they've said this summer has been lies. So don't expect people to be nice when you've been spinning lies and wasting people's time. I don't believe his background but if it's true, all the more you shouldn't be telling lies. She has got cancer and you muck about on Spurs forums? Death of siblings, yeah you know what, nope, this guy just seems like a kid whining it isn't his fault after being found out.

 

[yiddo2786]

29 goals in 83 games = A goal every 2.8 games, for a player who is 22.

+ 8 assists = Directly led to a goal every 2.4 games in a poor team, and is improving every month, never mind year. Yeah, he's proper shit.

Find me a 22 year old striker who has a 1/2 goal ratio in a top 3 Leagueand would be cheaper, please. Baffles me how people still put Berahino down.

Except you just pointed out that he doesn't, he has a 1/2.8 ratio which is not as good. You've also decided to include all competitions, which generously includes, for example, the four goals he scored against Gateshead. He has 19 Premier League goals in 72 Premier League games - a ratio of 1/3.8, which isn't very good.

In addition, 5 of those goals are penalties, so if you wanted open play goals - something Roberto Soldado was much maligned for - that's 14 goals in 72 games, or 1 every 5.1 games. Forgive me for not being impressed to the tune of £25m.

 

[YidDriver]

Is it just me or is anyone else feeling that we are not exactly going to get bargains now? Literally everyone knows that we are desperate for a striker and other players, the club have not exactly played with a poker face when asked about incomings and we have already gotten rid of so many unwanted players.

It is also quite obvious Levy is hated by several of the boards for the way he negotiates. If it were me I would simply raise all prices for players Spurs are interested in knowing that they are desperate for players and time is running out. We only get bargains on deadline day with players who are desperate to be sold by their club. The targets we need are clearly not being forced out of their clubs and so it will only raise the price as we keep getting closer to deadline day. How on earth was this not anticipated by the club? Doesn't anybody at Spurs have a business degree in Finance at Spurs?

 

[Jayc1]

You've also decided to include all competitions, which generously includes, for example, the four goals he scored against Gateshead. He has 19 Premier League goals in 72 Premier League games - a ratio of 1/3.8, which isn't very good.

In addition, 5 of those goals are penalties, so if you wanted open play goals - something Roberto Soldado was much maligned for - that's 14 goals in 72 games, or 1 every 5.1 games. Forgive me for not being impressed to the tune of £25m.

What a stupid thing to say. Doesn't ever deserve a thought out reply.

Kane didn't get 30 goals last season then. He got 21. Plus 2 pens, I think? So he 19 goals.

Like saying through balls don't count for David Silva because they're easy assists. Moronic. Tap ins count though, right, but pens don't? Do headers from corners count, I mean it is a set piece?

 

[yiddo2786]

What a stupid thing to say. Doesn't ever deserve a thought out reply.

Kane didn't get 30 goals last season then. He got 21. Plus 2 pens, I think? So he 19 goals.

Like saying through balls don't count for David Silva because they're easy assists. Moronic. Tap ins count though, right, but pens don't? Do headers from corners count, I mean it is a set piece?

Nah, Kane still scored 30 goals. He scored 21 league goals. He scored 19 goals that weren't penalties. It's just that if you want to try to compare records from different clubs it makes sense to try to compare as similar a thing as possible to standardise your comparison. Confining it to the Premier League means that players are largely playing the same opponents, and taking out penalties removes disadvantages to strikers who aren't their club's penalty taker. Obviously goal records can never be perfectly comparable because there are too many variables that are different, but I don't wanto to use a stat that gives an advantage to players who get to play against Gateshead or Asteras, or a stat that gives Berahino an advantage over, say, Daniel Sturridge because Liverpool have a specialist penalty taker.

 

[Spursinho]

therealITK

Jasper:
"I have deliberately taken time to keep quiet to gather my thoughts, and here they are. Let me hasten to add that if you have grammar intolerance please stop reading now, as I frankly don't give a damn of how my words are put together, as long as I believe my point has got across. If this sentence is one of a delinquently challenged then so be it.

I have gone through a lot of personal trauma that has resulted in the lost of a couple of my siblings in the past couple years, along with my wife who was diagnosed with cancer and thank fully in remission. She is my all in all and best friend.

I have been supporting THFC since early 1960's. Privileged to be involved in the game through my business, though not on a daily basis. I was also a scout for the club few years back, and will not disclose more than that. I have scouted and recommended players to clubs, some offered contracts and made a name for themselves in the game. My family are to a point involved at many levels, along with close connections at the club.

I can attest to having strong close relationships within the club, and have shared that with some, and have pictures and more to prove it. At almost anytime I have free executive access to most games which I do not always take up. I have been in meetings with players, agents etc, and cannot divulge a lot for those reasons.

When I share I learnt few years back to stop saying 'done deal' etc, as it comes back to haunt you. I therefore use vague words or hints. I have been warned to be very careful what I share for a lot of reasons. One thing I have never done is lied, embellished or similar. I have shared honestly and with a clear conscience.

I was the first one from memory to expose the signing of Dos Santos, with blow by blow. First one to share the a runtime and place of David Bentley's signing. First one to share Steffen Freund coming back in coaching role. First one to share about USA involvement etc with the stadium. First one to hint about the roof a give away.

First one to put nads on the line that Hugo Lloris would give it one more year, when the populace was he was going. I was in the company of certain staff members who told me DM was sorted, and I shared that and got pillared. I could continue, but believe you get my points.

I have always shared in honesty. I will take time to reflect if I will continue to do so, and cannot promise I will continue to contribute, as every word is dissected, to the point if I share an opinion out of frustration that is also ridiculed by some.

I am not in a good place as I try to preserve my business and also a caution to attend court for personal matters. Factor that in with my family problems and losses, which is a very hard time for me. If you believe I am a attention seeking, I honestly do not give. Flying f**k what you think, as I cannot be bothered to listen or respond to your constant p**s take at my expense.

I do not swear, but this has pushed me to an area of hurt, especially under my personal circumstances. You do not know what people are going through, and to some a forum like this allows them to escape for a while. I use to enjoy those moments, but no more. Very sad to what is happening to this forum. I do not belong to another, and do not use twitter.

Please take note that I will not be saying anything more, or responding on this thread. I have said what I wanted and felt needed to say to vindicate myself. These are very hard times for me and I WILL get through.

PS: I felt the need to address this in thread of its own, and apologise if you think my motives are different. AG thank for your kind words 'marmite'. I honestly appreciated your words as I do try to accept the right criticism, accepting my communication skills needs work."

Sorry to sound unkind, but this sounds to me like a man with quite serious mental health problems. He revealed the signing of Dos Santos? Yeah, I revealed the signing of Jimmy Greaves. Anyone can make claims that are impossible to verify.

 

[Deadwood'sPostMatch]

What games have you been watching.

Not 'Totnum' games would be my guess.