Isco - the player we need

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Processing pork is honestly Spain's greatest contribution to humanity. My family is only part-Spanish (Cubans), and my grandmother's pork is still the greatest food I've ever tasted.

Personally, I think the Spanish did this out of spite, out of their hatred towards Muslims (who of course hate pork) after la reconquista, but of course I can't prove this, and I was laughed at when I suggested it at Thanksgiving in Key Biscayne like 5 years ago.
It's not such a wacky theory you know, Christopher HItchens raises it in "God is not Great".
Go to any Spanish home for lunch and you'll be offered some sort of jamón, chorizo, salchichón etc as an aperitivo, it may well have started out as a way to catch out backsliders and people who hadn't really given up the old ways - remember that Jews were also expelled along with the Muslims in 1492, another group not exactly known for their love of pork.

SausageVince - look out for pork products that mention "Jabugo", that's the absolute creme de la creme

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He's only 24 years old. Real is a notoriously difficult place to get established - and he has to contend with Ronaldo there too.

I don't know if this youtube video of highlights gets linked here (I pasted it in) and I realise these kinds of videos are not a good basis to judge a player - but they can show what he is capable of.

Some of ( but not all) the times I have seen him play for Real he backs up the crazy skills with a presence and impressive control of midfield and put in man of the match performances, even though he is not a regular starter. He not only has ridiculous close control, but sets up goals with crosses and through balls - and scores himself too.

In my opinion he is one of the most undervalued players out there, and if we could get him in our team we would carve open anybody parking the bus and be on an equal footing with any side out there.


I been following La Liga for last 6 years, have watched him for Malaga and Madrid live & followed his career from Valencia and even said back in 2012 on twitter when Malaga had to sell him due to financial problems that he is a player that Spurs should buy, and have been saying it every season since then!
Magical talent, sublime skills, control, movement and passing and just the player Spurs need...
 
If true, it's promising that he's happy with Pochettinos vision and potential role.

I mean if we're going to stick with 3 at the back, it means Eriksen, Alli and Isco are going to be competing for two spots behind Kane which means Isco is guaranteed as much first team football here as he is at Real Madrid. Unless we're thinking of playing one of them in a deeper role.
We could still play 3 at the back and start Eriksen, Isco and Alli tbh. We wouldn't be able to do it if we stuck to this exact 3-4-2-1 we're playing now but a variation of it could probably happen with Isco coming in for Dembele in the starting X1.

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Is he better though? Or does he look good in a shit team? Lamela was our best player for quite a few games at the start of the season. And that is not bad considering the squad we got.

Err...I said Lamela was better not the other way round, Lanzini is a nice player but I have not seen him play at Lamela's level, we miss Lamela.
 
What planet is this? Miss a word and that means the person is a cunt? Have a different opinion and that means they are a cunt?

We support the same team - want the same thing - just have different opinions about different players.

Eriksen is a good player - fine - so I can't disagree? I just have a different opinion - that he's too inconsistent.

I am sorry - I thought this was a place to talk about THE spurs. How can you construct that sentence without THE ? wtf?

what the fuck are you people going to do when we move to the new stadium - chase the new people out with pitchforks?

I have been universally called a cunt because I don't think Eriksen and Dembele are all that great. wtf. I haven't said anything negative about Poch, about any other player ..

Are you taking the piss?

"I thought this was a place to talk about Spurs"

There you go - sentence constructed without the 'The'...
 
I like how this ill-begotten thread's been derailed. Found new life it has hmm?

Anyway, could it be that when referring to "the Spurs", with the definite article, it's being done in an exclusive way, when referring to "Spurs" alone, it's done in an inclusive way? Furthermore, use of the "the" definite article prior to "spurs" (i.e. "the spurs") helps differentiate from situations where use of the "spurs" word alone would be gramatically correct but contextually ambiguous.

For example, are you more likely to say "I love Spurs" (inclusive) or "I love the Spurs" (exclusive) or "I am a cunt"?

As another example, would you be more inclined to say "I am a Spurs fan" or "I am a the Spurs fan", conversely, would you say "I am a fan of the Spurs" or "I am a fan of Spurs" or "Am I a cunt"? Well, it would be correct to say "I am a Spurs fan" just as it would to say "I love the Spurs".

tl;dr I am talking the bollocks, I am a the cunt; but I like talking about Spurs as The Definite Article.
 
So now I know - "Oh when THE spurs go marching in" - they are cunts too right? They fucked up their own point? I hope you never sing that song and fuck up your own point and create waste of time songs.

That song only references "The Spurs" because it literally is the gospel hymn "When the Saints Go Marching In" with the word "Saints" substituted for "Spurs".

Literally no other reason.

In short, you're being a bit thick and digging a hole.
 
Full disclosure...

My in-laws have an apartment in Benalmádena, we go down there a fair bit. I have a scenario whereby I'm strolling along the promenade, bump into Isco (it's his home town), we go for a caña, chat Spurs and Spain, become best buddies...

Seriously tho, signing him is not as massively far-fetched as you may think. Madrid tend to sell cheap. Yes, Zidane's a fan but Madrid have to be seen to be continuously buying the latest, shiniest toy in the shop. They'll mainly be in the market for a new striker, someone like Aubameyang, but skillful ball-playing central midfielders have a far higher cache here than in England, in general, expect to see Madrid and FCB looking to buy in that department. The talk here is that Isco wants guarantees of a pretty-much guaranteed first team spot, he's unlikely to get it. Plus wages could well be affordable, he's a low earner at the minute, £38,000 after tax or thereabouts.

Sorry to stray off-message re the definite article debate. For what its worth we're always El Tottenham, Los Spurs in Spanish. Most teams carry the masculine article here (el Madrid, el Barça, el Málaga), the exception being Real Sociedad. "Sociedad" is a feminine noun, so they're "La Real", informally "La Reala". Cool eh?

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well how many premier league and champions league managers are so convinced by him. You're the expert - why has he never played in a champions league or premier league winning team - because you think all those managers from all those teams offered so much money for him?
ffs

THE clueless cunt manager of Belgium wouldn't even start him ahead of Witsel and/or Nainggolan. It doesn't mean he is right.

I don't know who had the stats, or where they came from, but last season someone listed stats showing how our team did (points per game) with and without Dembele. It was also shown how many goals Kane was scoring per game with and without Dembele. It was pretty fucking obvious that people should've been convinced by him. And if they didn't trust those stats, they could check out his individual stats.

He isn't the player most featured in the highlights. He doesn't assist or score a lot. Neither did Modric. Was he not good enough either? Thank god Real Madrid took him off our books, aye?

Check out this: https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/2...erStatistics/England-Premier-League-2015-2016

Ranked fourth on average rating in Premier League, 2015/16: Moussa Dembele. Despite not scoring or assisting much, which is what often scores best on ratings. His defensive contributions were among the best in the league (check his tackling stat, or just watch him dominate a midfield in a game). His offensive contributions were top notch as well, although they may largely go unnoticed.

In the top ten dribblers in the league, in most dribbles per game, he's number 7. The rest of the top dribblers range from 1.6 to 3.4 unsuccesful dribbles per game. Moussa? 0.2. You may think that dribbling as a CDM is not very important. I'd say that's what makes him unique, what makes him our most important player, and an important part of why he's the best player in the league.

In the modern game, pressing high up the pitch is a tool to dominate possession, to control the game, to defend far from your goal and to win the ball in dangerous positions. It is important. You can watch our players chase the ball like crazy as soon as an opponent carrying the ball if facing his own keeper, or as soon as someone plays a backpass.

A basic rule in football is that if the guy carrying the ball is under pressure, unable to play a through ball, you can push your team up. If he can play a through ball, you need to pull back. If opponents try to deploy that basic rule when Dembele looks to be in trouble, they will be fucked right in the pussy. He'll simply turn around, dribble whatever cunt tries to put him under pressure, and the opponents will find themselves exposed. Noone comes close to doing that as smoothly and efficiently as Dembele. He exposes the opponents, and they have two choices: To throw people at him, to re-establish pressure, or to pull back. If they do the first, he can either dribble past the next guy to come at him, or lay the ball off to someone else who is facing the right way who can exploit the exposed opponent. If they do the latter, there will be a lot of space to exploit between the opponent's back line and midfield, that players like Alli, Lamela, Kane and Eriksen thrive in.

His qualities are of vital importance to our success. His suspension and early injury, along with the time it took to get him fit again, really hurt us in the early parts of the season. Now that he's back, we're back. He's what makes us tick.

It's laughable when fans of other teams doesn't recognize it. Frustrating when pundits and "experts" chosing a "Team of the Year" or a "Player of the Year" doesn't see it. When The Spurs fans doesn't see it though, it can be infuriating. I guess that's why you've been called a cunt for your opinions.
 
It's not such a wacky theory you know, Christopher HItchens raises it in "God is noit Great".
Go to any Spanish home for lunch and you'll be offered some sort of jamón, chorizo, salchichón etc as an aperitivo, it may well have started out as a way to catch out backsliders and people who hadn't really given up the old ways - remember that Jews were also expelled along with the Muslims in 1492, another group not exactly known for their love of pork.

SausageVince - look out for pork products that mention "Jabugo", that's the absolute creme de la creme

sobre-de-100grs-de-jamon-serrano-de-salamanca-loncheado-300x300.jpg
Picked up a packet of the best iberico ham i could find in the central market for my eldest son who arrives tonight. It was an eye watering price for a packet of cold meat. Not Bernard Matthew's wafer thin turkey ham, that's for sure.
 
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