January 2023 Transfer Thread. The Big One

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It will be interesting to see how Chelsea perform. They now have a squad made up entirely of players over the 50m mark, with 3 rated over 100m.

Koulibaly was pretty in demand on this forum; but he has looked pretty average in the prem. They seem to be still lacking a top striker, I wonder if the 110m Lukaku will return in the summer?

Of course, we cannot make further improvements to our squad until the likes of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguillon are sold - that should bank us 100m.....BUT, the rest of Europe isn't spending any money.

Newcastle have shown what confidence, desire and motivation can do to a squad without needing to buy Galatico's.
I don't trust anything about Chelsea. I'm American and I cringe every time I hear about American owners for Premier League clubs. Their frame of reference is the NFL and the logical place you would go with that perspective is right back to a Super League format, tinkering with rules, and gimmicks like an All Star game and playoffs. This whole thing of spreading payments and back loading them is an NFL concept. Just what the Premier League needed, another Man City with deeper pockets and less charm. I've got a new least favorite team.
 
£14m pa for 3 years versus the £10m pa we get from Cinch.

So its a worthwhile increase in financial terms, but by itself it's not a game changer. But hopefully a number of sponsorships grow and in turn that means Spurs has more money in transfer windows. Obviously also helps if our talent spotting gets better too !
I came on to make the same point. It's an extra £4m per year. Every little helps.

Re: Player investment this window, I do have to wonder whether we did not invest more this window as we know Conte is highly likely to depart at the end of his current contract, and if so that makes a lot of sense.
 
There's a swiss ramble thread from like a year ago covering this kind of stuff. Spurs already have one of the highest commercial revenues in world football. IIRC, we've overtaken woolwich in this area.

We're actually massively behind the likes of Man U in commercial revenue. The area we have really improved is match day revenue. We were 1/4 or a 1/3 of the likes of Man U / Woolwich etc. match day revenue 20 years ago. Now we earn the most. We could not compete without the new stadium. But now we have it, it is time for a change of leadership to make that revenue count on the pitch. I'd happily keep Levy on the payroll to be head of commercial revenue so he can maximise other income (merchandising, sponsorship etc.), just keep him away from any decision making on investment in the first team and under no circumstances let him anywhere near a negotiation for a player transfer.
 
It will be interesting to see how Chelsea perform. They now have a squad made up entirely of players over the 50m mark, with 3 rated over 100m.

Koulibaly was pretty in demand on this forum; but he has looked pretty average in the prem. They seem to be still lacking a top striker, I wonder if the 110m Lukaku will return in the summer?

Of course, we cannot make further improvements to our squad until the likes of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguillon are sold - that should bank us 100m.....BUT, the rest of Europe isn't spending any money.

Newcastle have shown what confidence, desire and motivation can do to a squad without needing to buy Galatico's.

Another post thst will be consigned to the outlier of balanced and written with far too much objectivity.

Realistically you would think only a stuttering Liverpool and the Viv Nicholson club will be a threat to us from those clubs who sit below.

Howe has to be admired for the calm way he is building Newcastle and is doing far better so far than being the stop gap many thought he would be.

If we play to potential and not to how good we are on paper then we are well placed.
 
The best football Ndombele played was for us was under Jose, and Jose praised him a lot during his final months here.
Shaw was a mistake sure, he fucked up on that one and should've handled it better. Juan Mata himself said that he understood why Jose let him go, and when they were re-united at Man Utd, Jose played Mata throughout his time there.
Karsdorp is too early to tell, however Roma fans say that Jose is right on that one (Karsdorp never looked that bad of a player to me to be honest).

Every manager has his fuck-ups, but for some reason only Mourinho is held under a microscope whenever he falls out with a player. Guardiola is as much of a cunt as him, maybe even more, and nobody seems to remember the treatment he gave to Abidal, Henry, Ibra, Toure, Cancelo lately etc. Even Poch fell out with Trippier spectacularly, to a point that Trippier refused to mention his name when talking about managers that he played under (he'd just moved to Atleti at the time I think). Not everyone is a Klopp (who I'm pretty sure has fallen out with one of his players as well in the past).
A manager should never criticize individuals publicly and Jose was a fucking master at it and as bus-conductor bus-conductor quite rightly points out it's his usual desire to deflect blame away from himself and onto the people he needed to get a tune out of that motivated him.
The only time I think it's ever even vaguely acceptable is when a players downs tools and refuses to train/play.

I don't remember Poch singling out Trips publicly, but if he did it was also cuntish behaviour.

But Jose broke the golden rule of team management - kill them in private if you must but publicly do not single out individuals. Ferguson knew this, any decent manager (in any profession) knows this.
 
Nobody criticized Jose for that. Most people criticized him for the style of play.

In my opinion, in hindsight, he was right (however I was way more lenient on him than most posters here).
Dude, a LOT of people criticised Jose, not just at Spurs for his post match blame game of players.
But there are times when it just IS the players.

Conte and Jose are not mates. But they have both said one similar thing after games - "I didn't tell them to play like that" when asked about defensive football.

Mourinho before Spurs very publicly threw Luke Shaw under the bus.
 
A manager should never criticize individuals publicly and Jose was a fucking master at it and as bus-conductor bus-conductor quite rightly points out it's his usual desire to deflect blame away from himself and onto the people he needed to get a tune out of that motivated him.
The only time I think it's ever even vaguely acceptable is when a players downs tools and refuses to train/play.

I don't remember Poch singling out Trips publicly, but if he did it was also cuntish behaviour.

But Jose broke the golden rule of team management - kill them in private if you must but publicly do not single out individuals. Ferguson knew this, any decent manager (in any profession) knows this.

You say all this, and I don't completely disagree, but you have coaches who are targeted by the press/media who effectively instigate the beginning of the end. Maybe the coach is sending out these players every game and the players just aren't doing what has been practiced all week. That's not the coaches fault. This is where we've been since Poch and it's because we still have the same blundering idiots making mistakes.

Even a saint, after being bad mouthed in the papers every day for a month is eventually gonna say "It's not my fault Dier doesn't know how to tackle and Lloris keeps throwing the ball in his own net"
Or "If I got the players I needed, like a quality CB or 2, then maybe the rest of the team could play nicer football"
 
You say all this, and I don't completely disagree, but you have coaches who are targeted by the press/media who effectively instigate the beginning of the end. Maybe the coach is sending out these players every game and the players just aren't doing what has been practiced all week. That's not the coaches fault. This is where we've been since Poch and it's because we still have the same blundering idiots making mistakes.

Even a saint, after being bad mouthed in the papers every day for a month is eventually gonna say "It's not my fault Dier doesn't know how to tackle and Lloris keeps throwing the ball in his own net"
Or "If I got the players I needed, like a quality CB or 2, then maybe the rest of the team could play nicer football"
The manager is ultimately responsible for performance of the people they manage. And if, as you say, some players are continually failing to perform in the way they've been coached and instructed, then the manager is failing to get a performance out of said players and needs to take action.

That may mean dropping a player, talking to/bollocking/supporting them, selling them or all of the above. In most cases it's lack of effort that grinds most managers gears rather than a drop in form or confidence. And a good manager knows that different people react to different stimuli, understands their players and knows how to get the best out of them.

Conte came in, set out his standards, assessed the players and decided he didn't want some of them. And I suspect this was mainly around effort/attitude issues. He did it quickly and will continue to do it, it sets an expectation for the group and it helps to create a healthy environment that everyone is putting in the effort. No toxicity, no shit in the press, you keep it in house and cut the negative elements out quickly.

Poch did the same when he came in. Set out his standards, gave everyone a chance and then got rid of the players who weren't pulling their weight, sidelining some of them completely until they could be sold. Not continually trying to cajole people who weren't onside to put in the effort - it's a waste of time, degrades standards and allows resentment within the group to arise (why's that lazy, late fuck playing instead of me, why should I bother if he isn't?).

If I'm continually half arsing it in work, turning up late, missing meetings and deadlines, churning out poor work with a poor attitude then it's up to my manager to address that. And that isn't trying to call me out and humiliate me in front of others. It's sitting me down, finding out what the problem is, telling me how I need to improve and giving me a clear outline of what will happen if I don't and then enforcing that. It's how you maintain a professional environment with high standards. It's good for morale, promotes hard work as the minimum standard and is fair and consistent.

Going public creates a atmosphere of mistrust and fear, it doesn't foster togetherness and once you go public you then allow everyone else to do the same. It's toxic and ultimately destroys any feeling of a team being together and united. You build a team through trust and respect, going public is the antithesis of this.

As an aside I thought the Poch book that came out while he was still manager was one of the biggest mistakes he made, it could improve nothing and only cause harm for the reasons I cite above. I think his ego got the better of him as things progressed at Spurs. It's often the way after you've been somewhere a long time.
 


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Quite a good interview I thought - if it had been an independent interviewer might have asked Paratici a question along the lines of 'what happens now after the Italian investigation of Juventus and your part in that' . On the other hand probably better not to ask it given its being appealed !
 
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Quite a good interview I thought - if it had been an independent interviewer might have asked Paratici a question along the lines of 'what happens now after the Italian investigation of Juventus and your part in that' . On the other hand probably better not to ask it given its being appealed !

I wonder if Conte’s comments about those higher up at the club having more direct contact with the media has had an effect?
 
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I wonder if Conte’s comments about those higher up at the club having more direct contact with the media has had an effect?

Not sure. Levy has always been a man not overly comfortable in public - that was obvious when he appeared alongside Poch a couple of times in videos, so no surprise he's not stepping forward now.

Spurs have often done a 'window wrap' usually with an article, but I think Paraciti is far more comfortable talking (its part of his job to socialise deals at other clubs and to agents/players), so I think a video comes far more naturally - I think he's done one talking direct to camera before.

But it does make sense to have a couple of different people taking on the role of being interviewed.

Slightly off topic, its not unusual for the FD of listed companies to do presentations of the financial results, so if Conte has his way .... Spurs FD up next ?
 
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I wonder if Conte’s comments about those higher up at the club having more direct contact with the media has had an effect?
I think it's just the club's way to show they're standing behind Paratici, together with having him watch the Preston game, and releasing promotional photos of him with the players.
 
Dude, a LOT of people criticised Jose, not just at Spurs for his post match blame game of players.
But there are times when it just IS the players.

Conte and Jose are not mates. But they have both said one similar thing after games - "I didn't tell them to play like that" when asked about defensive football.

Mourinho before Spurs very publicly threw Luke Shaw under the bus.

Absolutely.
Problem is (imo) both Conte and Jose are football savants that want players to understand the tactical nuance of when they want them to defend and when they want them to attack and that things change during a game that they need to adapt to.

For a Klopp or Pep, even Poch system it's probably easier for players and fans (myself included, not claiming to understand football like Conte or Jose) when a system is easier to identify visually. Conte and Jose probably expect players to have a collective football IQ that they don't often get unless they coach a group for a while or have a huge budget to buy players with it.
Not saying Pep isn't equally genius but different.
 
It will be interesting to see how Chelsea perform. They now have a squad made up entirely of players over the 50m mark, with 3 rated over 100m.

Koulibaly was pretty in demand on this forum; but he has looked pretty average in the prem. They seem to be still lacking a top striker, I wonder if the 110m Lukaku will return in the summer?

Of course, we cannot make further improvements to our squad until the likes of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguillon are sold - that should bank us 100m.....BUT, the rest of Europe isn't spending any money.

Newcastle have shown what confidence, desire and motivation can do to a squad without needing to buy Galatico's.
We won’t get 100m for those players at all. We been trying for years to shift the deadwood & at best clubs will take them on loan. Levy couldn’t even get a penny for Doherty. Also you seem to think spending isn’t really much of an advantage so it won’t particularly help us when we spend it anyway.
 
It will be interesting to see how Chelsea perform. They now have a squad made up entirely of players over the 50m mark, with 3 rated over 100m.

Koulibaly was pretty in demand on this forum; but he has looked pretty average in the prem. They seem to be still lacking a top striker, I wonder if the 110m Lukaku will return in the summer?

Of course, we cannot make further improvements to our squad until the likes of Lo Celso, Ndombele, Reguillon are sold - that should bank us 100m.....BUT, the rest of Europe isn't spending any money.

Newcastle have shown what confidence, desire and motivation can do to a squad without needing to buy Galatico's.
I know you're not suggesting that we actually will get 100m or even close to it, but I'd be surprised if we managed to sell those players for a total of 40m.

Lo Celso makes 80k per week and can't stay fit for half the games of a season. We won't make much north of 15m if we sell him. Ndombele makes crazy money and nobody will take on his wages, I actually think he might be in our squad next season under a new manager. Reguilon like Lo Celso can't keep himself fit, we really need them to finish out the season strongly.
 
Absolutely.
Problem is (imo) both Conte and Jose are football savants that want players to understand the tactical nuance of when they want them to defend and when they want them to attack and that things change during a game that they need to adapt to.

For a Klopp or Pep, even Poch system it's probably easier for players and fans (myself included, not claiming to understand football like Conte or Jose) when a system is easier to identify visually. Conte and Jose probably expect players to have a collective football IQ that they don't often get unless they coach a group for a while or have a huge budget to buy players with it.
Not saying Pep isn't equally genius but different.
Jackpot.
I think player recruitment totally neglects an interview with the player the team wants in order to ascertain whether they're mentally able to play in the coaches system.
 
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