Never heard of him.
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Never heard of him.
Definitely. When it comes to the worst attitude award, he pips them all.
Came to us with a sob story about how he was hard done by in Estonia or somewhere, said he was determined to make it, then received one hard tackle and turned into a complete pussy with the attitude of a lifetime benefits cheat.
For him and David Howells "pass it sideways" meant give it to Gazza. Which was always the right option to be fair.
...agreed, and whilst he's probably worth a considerable amount more now...
he'll always be worth at least one goal a game to the opposition!!
I was always very happy when Stuart Nethercott, Erik Thorstvedt or Justin Edinburgh were on the teamsheet to play us.
One game Nethercott had against Emile Heskey when he was still at Leicester goes down as the worst performance by a centre half I have ever seen. And I saw John Lacy play a lot of games!
Yes, well I see your John Lacy and raise you Micky Nutton and I'll throw in Brian Bason.
Look at our FA Cup Semi-Final line-up against the Arse >>
1991 Team: Thorstvedt, Edinburgh, Van Den Hauwe, Sedgley, Howells, Mabbutt, Stewart, Gascoigne (Nayim), Samways (Walsh), Lineker, Allen
Remember, that was also our eventual FA Cup Winning team! ...and yet i'd say no more than three or four would get into our current side! (and i'm only including Thorstvedt as back-up to Lloris, not instead of him!)
We even played a not too dissimilar system in '91 to the one we play today... you could argue that any one of Jan, Toby or Dier are the solid dependable defensive leaders that Mabbutt so epitomised,
Dele
clearly plays the Gazza role 
in our team, Lineker is ably played by Kane 
...yet compare the rest of the '91 team with the current team that beat the same lot on Sunday, and we are by far superior in every department (if you don't take into consideration Lineker's vastly superior experience and striking career compared to Kane's relatively early one!)
I remember thinking what a solid, yet wildly talented team we had back in the 1991 Cup run... but really and truly, we were only talking about Gazza & Lineker... the rest (especially the English core of Howells, Samways, Sedgley and Paul Allen would be journeymen midfielders at a mid-lower Premier League club today!
(...maybe i'm being a bit harsh to lump 'Clive's Cousin' in with the other three)
But you look at the core of our team today, and the likes of Dembele, Wanyama, Eriksen, even Son would walk the league back then... the overall technical standard (not to mention the endurance/fitness levels back then) of all the teams in England at the time was so much lower! How else did ArseAnal get away with 'doing a Leicester' consistently for the best part of a decade??
This is probably in the wrong thread now... but you get the gist! I just wanted to put a positive spin on our 'worst players ever' idea... as it was a very different game back then!
(incidentally, I just want to stress that I don't for one minute suggest that any of that 1991 Cup Final squad would be considered 'worst Spurs players ever'... we've had far worse!)
Oh I forgot Rocha. He was shit
Samways was one of our better players in the late 80s early 90s. He also came through from the youth team and was a proper spurs guy. He was superb in the cup final when gazza nearly fucked it all up.the guy was ahead of his time, if he'd been around now he'd be getting hyped for pass accuracy and keeping posession. He was a great influence with Paul Allen and Howells in our midfield particularly in 92 when we had a young team with the likes of anderton and barmby.
I think that says it all!!
But yes, to be fair, he definitely came of age in that Cup Final... whilst Gazza seemed to visibly regress!!
Generally I don't 'hate' any player that pulls on our strip. I respect them for representing Spurs and wish every one of them does well. That changed when he and Adebayor actively avoided the football when they were in that wall defending a free kick against West Ham. I fucking despised the cunt after that. It was one of the most cowardly acts I've seen.
Sid Richardson was talking about him on the Spanish football podcast - how when he moved to Spain he was seen completely different player -think he was a hard man enforcer.
Well, that and the reaction which you felt like they were trying not to laugh at it
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No way Vinny Samways should be in this thread! Compared to some of our midfield maestro's since, paulinhio, Andy Gray, dozzell, Saib and Berti to name a few. Vinny is a god!!
Problem was previously we had Hoddle, ardiles, hazzard, Galvin, villa, Waddle, all top quality then we only really had Gascoigne.....the quality dipped for season after season.....Ginola being the one bright spark in those years.
Samways was immense in the cup final when gazza went off, but so was Nayim that day.
Problem was previously we had Hoddle, ardiles, hazzard, Galvin, villa, Waddle, all top quality then we only really had Gascoigne.....the quality dipped for season after season.....Ginola being the one bright spark in those years.
Samways was immense in the cup final when gazza went off, but so was Nayim that day.
He did.
She said he tried very hard, ye know, put in a lot of effort, but ultimately he was completely useless.
I told her that didn't surprise me.
Ye know, when I was mascot, I had a kick about with Nayim in the centre circle. He was alright, no McGinn, but alright.
I said to him: here, Naz, next time ye're in the dying embers of a cup winners cup final ye should take a pot shot from the half way line on the half volley.
He said: nae bother wee man, I'll remember that.
No idea what became of the man
she also said you did a better job.
Apologies if these players have already been mentioned. Mimms, Tremmezani, Rasiak, Toda, Gilberto, Kerslake, Dozzell, Cundy & Nethercott spring to mind at the top of my head. I don't quite get the fascination with Nicola Berti either !
...man, that's made me go all clammy... the memory of the sheer sinking feeling you'd have when any combination of those names were on the teamsheet... (and in some cases, 3 or 4 were in the same team!)
Horrible horrible days!