Or instead, just dont throw any bananas towards black players.I would hope that if I ever made a stupid mistake, other Spurs supporters would adopt that attitude towards me.
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Or instead, just dont throw any bananas towards black players.I would hope that if I ever made a stupid mistake, other Spurs supporters would adopt that attitude towards me.
There are very similar stories about black/hispanic soldiers in Vietnam.When my old fella was in the Army every Irishman was Paddy, every Scotsman was Jock, Taff, Geordie, Brum, Scouse, Nobby or Chalky etc. Noone was offended and they would have all laid down their lives for each other. Like with most things, it generally comes down to context.
Errr...irony and all that...
Ironically if what was thrown was a coin or something that could damage the headline “Tottenham fans throw missile” and it would have been done and dusted by Monday night!I blame the kid who brought in a banana...
#whyskidsdothis ??
Nice to see that Abamuyang has become judge and jury on this, and made sure that Twatter decides his fate!
German teenager admits throwing banana during Brazil v Scotland matchOn historical grounds.
As has been said, this is the first time (from what I've researched) a banana/skin thrown towards black player/s has been deemed not racist.
When I saw it the Alves incident flashed through my head. Roberto Carlos. Roma. Etc.
Ok, first incident in 7 years.
personally I thought and hoped it was not racist based on the fact it was a Banana skin, I have only every heard of/ seen bananas being thrown a banana skin has no precedence that I know of (and racists don't tend to think outside the box).Ok, first incident in 7 years.
Point remains.
But you have failed to give this guy the benefit of the doubt despite having less evidence than the jury.It doesnt mean they got it wrong, it means they made a decision based on the evidence presented. If you have doubts, you cant convict.
I wasnt on the jury....from the small article in the Manchester Evening News, I find it odd that people would make up the racist comments he was supposed to be shouting.
But I wasnt on the Jury. I dont know what evidence came forward in light of that.
I have already said I could be wrong and he could be innocent. I make a judgement on what is presented, but dont use a blanket rule that anyone and everyone accused of racism is guilty.
The gloating was the reason people got angry enough to throw things. It doesnt excuse throwing anything, but it is still the reason. Had they celebrated with their own fans, it wouldnt have happened.
It was also not the case that the guy specifically picked a banana to make a statement. As opposed to hissing gas chamber noises. The banana was just there, and it if was a can of coke, he would have thrown that too.
Your view doesnt have to tally with the police. But its weird that it tallied just fine with the Alves incident, to the point where you used the police decision as some kind of proof of guilt.
You are looking for consistency in how I judge situations. There is a reason you have failed to see any, because every situation you have presented has been different, so Ive judged them differently. Ive judged them by their own specific account.
I dont judge the guy who threw the banana skin on the Alves incident. And I dont judge the Alves incident on 300 Chelsea fans imitating the gas chamber.
In a murder trial, does the prosecution bring ten irrelevant murder cases to the table to show that this guy must have done this one?
Because of his action, i.e throwing the banana skin towards a black player. If I knew the man and could vouch for him perhaps my opinion would be different.Why would you assume the worst?
Just because the guy is saying this, doesn't mean people have to believe it.From the interview he doesnt name any players, and the account from the guy that claimed to know him said it was at Bellerin
“I apologise if I have offended anyone from both clubs, especially Tottenham. It was a mad thing I did and I never meant to offend anyone in any way. I have been charged with throwing an object. I am not charged with anything racist. The police were happy to accept it was not racist. I have made a big mistake and I am sincerely sorry for it.
“Without thinking, I picked up this banana skin and threw it on the edge of the pitch. I didn’t throw it at the players. It was just on the edge of the pitch. It is totally out of character. I didn’t think of the racist connotations.”
Why should they if they don't know who you are personally? It's not reflecting a positive view of human beings imo to just give someone the benefit of the doubt because they support the same football club.True, but that doesn't mean that this individual person was doing it for a racist reason. There's no way we can know that without getting into his head. Maybe not without entering into his unconscious, even. There is no other evidence, that we know of, of him being racist. So you either take his word for it, or you don't.
IMO the fairer course of action, which reflects a more positive view of human beings, is to take his word for it, given what we know. I would hope that if I ever made a stupid mistake, other Spurs supporters would adopt that attitude towards me.
I do and believe it or not, for the sole intention of eating it (not many healthy snacks at football grounds!). Not sure I will in future though.This is my first post about the banana incident. I haven't gone back and read any of the other comments about this incident because obviously you're all a bunch of pricks
Just wanted to say that a) judging by the photos of this bloke he looks well old enough to know what the connotations of throwing a banana skin on a pitch are, and b) who the fuck takes a banana to a football match
That is all.
That is one of the stupidest posts ever posted on the internet.What utter nonsense.
They wrote something that others construed as racist perhaps? How do you know the accusations are false?Come off it. Even on this forum there are members falsely accusing others of racism. How else do you explain it.
Ignore the fluffer. He's making digs at me but doesn't have the bottle to address me directly.They wrote something that others construed as racist perhaps? How do you know the accusations are false?
Barely anyone defended you because they see you for the slimey little bigoted pussy you are.Barely anyone said anything about it.
Don't lose that cool of yours, Sam. It's the only thing hiding your true face.Being the race police gives some people a sense of power in an otherwise insignificant life. That's also why they hunt in packs and suck each other off.