They're 17th in the Home form table.. We have no excuses if we don't beat them.
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We've been gradually improving as a squad over the last 10 years and our team hasn't earned the praise that more positive fans give them? Fuck off mate. That's just fucking bollocks.
I agree and disagree. Negativity is just another word for not accepting mediocrity, whereas as the happy clappers do exactly that. That's all beside the point anyway as this has nothing to do with atmosphere at the lane and I'd wager that people who are a bit Eeyore like would get behind the team live at a game, it's about freedom of expression online, not at games.
Anyway, enough derailing the thread purpose, they just have the right to be negative is all
I don't see how people who won't hear a bad word about Spurs are more of a problem - I honestly can't see that.
We should always be second in the league? What right do we have to be here? Man U and Liverpool are much bigger clubs than us in terms of money and fans. Shouldn't they be around about second? Woolwich are bigger than us for the same reason. Chelsea abd City are richer than us. What is our divine right to be second or even top four/six? You're talking shit mate....and even if this is where we "should" be, it doesn't mean it should be taken for granted and is not an achievement. Three trophies in your lifetime maybe, but I can tell you've followed the club for a much shorter period than that because your entirely lack perspective on where and how we've progressed.
Moronic garbage. Perennial underperformers under AVB/Sherwood? What planet are you on? AVB got us our Premier League points record up to that point. So you're saying everything since our last title win in the 60s is no good enough. You're ssentially saying that we have a right to whine like spoiled babies if we don't win the league every year.
Pathetic. Utterly Pathetic.
Being tolerant of other views doesn't mean having to be tolerant of constant and annoying negativity when it isn't warranted, nor does it mean having to tolerate unmeritorious remarks about underachieving. There's offering a contrary viewpoint, and then there's talking complete bollocks.
It takes more than a good defence to be second. Man U had the best defence last year. Why aren't they in second?
How do you know? Who would you have signed? Where would they fit into the squad? How do you know they would've hit the ground running? How much were you prepared to pay in wages? Whose place were you going to sacrifice? Is Wanyama not a great addition (That's one space in the squad the finished third last year already taken up)? Which tactics would you use to accommodate you new signing/s?
It takes more than a best 11 to win a league when factoring in fitness and injuries....and also number of fixtures. Us winning the league would absolutely be an overachievement. Do you think our squad is better than all those of our rivals?
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I thought we did?
Feel sorry for you, you've opened up Pandora's box here. You can't win debates with the majority of people on here, they'll carry it on until they die, usually with no evidence or even an objective.
Example, I'm accused of being negative in every match thread. Pretty sure I've posted about 10 times in the last 5 match threads combined. Doesn't stop people mouthing off
Match threads I didn't post in = must have thought we would have lost apparently.
Despite me barely ever predicting a loss this season.
Said we should rest key players against millwall & will still win 4-0. Most said play our best 11 & millwall will be tough to beat.
Still too negative of me.
Sad thing is they moan about negative posters posting but are desperate for the negative posters to post negative stuff.
If you don't, they don't like it & block it out their minds. Then they are desperate to start an argument with negative posters.
They are more interested in negative supporters then what is actually going on with the team.
& I notice that when you haven't posted at all in a match thread, they can't not talk about you.
Slagging off jayc = good way to support a goal or win according to them.
)That statement is complete horseshit Scott. Match threads are virtually unreadable because of the whining. Who are the 'they' you mention. You seem to have aligned yourself with a few posters who think they are the only ones to speak the 'truth'. It's nothing but arrogance. Who is desperate to read the bollocks that
Art Vandelay
and the like post? Not me for one.
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The end of our season last year was a disaster. Let's not pretend otherwise. After the draw at WBA we were atrocious. But I agree with the sentiment that things are changing.
No, sorry but I'm amazed any Spurs fan doesn't know the qualifying rules after the ways it's fucked us over in recent seasons
I like your last paragraph there, and I agree it's very frustrating, but hey just enjoy the ride, you can't really do much else.
I was chatting to a couple of Leeds fans on Friday night and even they were saying still, how we threw it away last season and the league should have been ours. Our day will come either way as long as we keep Poc. A couple of key signings and we're looking at a dynasty in my opinion.
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You're right. Us and Leicester were both on 57 points I believe (With Leicester having a game in hand) and the equaliser then saw us end the gameweek on 55 points and Leicester winning their game in hand to go 5 points clear.
That whole week was shit because we also lost to West Ham midweek on a day that Leicester dropped points - that was when the league title was lost in my view.
Still maintain that we didn't win that because we took Lamela off. Same happened in the game at The Emirates - Lamela was the driving force in the game, he was the one winning everything, harrying the Woolwich players, creating our chances and when he was subbed off in both games, we lost the heart and desire he was bringing us.
It was totally unacceptable to draw 2-2 with Woolwich at home with the game being so important and they also had 10 men too.