I thought this too up until recently - but it seems the extra CL place would be at the cost of one of England Europa places. We can only relax if Chelsea win the Cup, or if Wolves get knocked out of Europa if we do secure 6th. First club to lose the CL spot in 2012, Wouldn't put it past us being the first to miss out on Europa following the rule change
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I thought this too up until recently - but it seems the extra CL place would be at the cost of one of England Europa places. We can only relax if Chelsea win the Cup, or if Wolves get knocked out of Europa if we do secure 6th. First club to lose the CL spot in 2012, Wouldn't put it past us being the first to miss out on Europa following the rule change
Urrgghh still grates. We needed one fucking point from the last two games!
Ah, well I stand corrected.
Though of the things required to get fucked over - I certainly have more fear of Woolwich winning the FA cup final than Wolves winning the EL.
I pray that this time next week the results have gone our way and we can relax (or feel more relaxed anyway).
Are you 100% sure on this?
Feel exactly the same ! - If not - Will be rooting for Inter and one final favour from Eriksen!
Then again, I'm looking on here and I'm not certain of a EL spot being taken away by having 5 CL teams...
www.premierleague.com
Edit: but then again, looking at the season where United won the EL to qualify for the CL, we only saw two EL spots given at the end of the season...
Premier League Clubs in Europe & Qualification Explained for UEFA competitions
For an explanation of how Premier League clubs qualify for UEFA competitions in season 2022/23 and which clubs will feature, visit the official website of the Premier League.
www.premierleague.com
Edit: but then again, looking at the season where United won the EL to qualify for the CL, we only saw two EL spots given at the end of the season...
This was on Sky Sports yesterday:
Champions League and Europa League qualification: What Arsenal's FA Cup win means for Tottenham and Wolves
Woolwich beat Chelsea 2-1 at Wembley in Saturdays FA Cup final
Near the bottom:
How does winning Champions League, Europa League affect qualification?
The Premier League can have a maximum of seven teams qualify for European football.
Also See:
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- The run-in: Live games on Sky Sports
- Premier League fixtures
- Premier League table
Was just looking for some reassurance than 6th would mean it's done ... made it a whole lot worse
So long story short:
>it's better to snatch 6th on the final day regardless.
>if we do that we can await the FA cup result and are fine if Chelsea win.
>if Woolwich win we have to sweat on EL results regarding Wolves.
The real spanner in the works here is that FA cup final. 7th would be fine otherwise. Chelsea need to do their fucking jobs.
>it's better to snatch 6th on the final day regardless.
>if we do that we can await the FA cup result and are fine if Chelsea win.
>if Woolwich win we have to sweat on EL results regarding Wolves.
The real spanner in the works here is that FA cup final. 7th would be fine otherwise. Chelsea need to do their fucking jobs.
They're semi-right.
You'd think that 6th was guaranteed EL because Man City won the League Cup, but people have now realised that the combination of Woolwich winning the FA cup and Wolves winning the EL (if they finish 7th) would stop 6th place getting EL.
Yep, exactly that.
Chelsea do their job and win the FA Cup we're good whatever we do at the weekend. But as you say, less fear of Wolves winning Europa than Woolwich the FA cup so nicking 6th would still be big
On the plus side, whatever happens we don't have to wait longer than next weekend to find out the FA cup results and it's not like we're praying for Champions League qualification.
4th place and waiting for the Bayern-Chelsea final was far far worse than this could ever be.
Premier League: Who can qualify for Champions League and Europa League? BBC going with this...
If Chelsea win the Champions League AND Wolves win the Europa League - and neither finish in the top four - then only the top three in the Premier League qualify for the Champions League.
Uefa regulations suggest England could have eight teams in Europe if that happened and one of them did not finish in the top six/seven - or nine if they both fail to.
If Chelsea win the Champions League AND Wolves win the Europa League - and neither finish in the top four - then only the top three in the Premier League qualify for the Champions League.
Uefa regulations suggest England could have eight teams in Europe if that happened and one of them did not finish in the top six/seven - or nine if they both fail to.
Haha yep that's some consolation, this feels pretty minor in comparison.
Up until that point I'd never seen a penalty shootout win for Tottenham (of any significance) or England (too young to remember Euro 96). Finally I had a German team to back but we all know what happened
We'll have to wait and see I guess (and hope it's irrelevant) - although the same is on the Premier League website
Battle for Europe: How PL clubs sealed UEFA qualification
The Premier League's European qualifiers have been finalised for the 2020/21 season
www.premierleague.com
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Five clubs in UEFA Champions League?
What if a club win the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League and finish outside the top four?
In such a scenario, the Premier League would get a fifth representative in the 2020/21 UEFA Champions League.
As a result, only two spots would be available for the UEFA Europa League, with the FA Cup winners getting one of them if they have not already qualified for Europe through their league position.
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Most other clubs probably wouldn't even bother checking this - Still not healed from 2012 though!
Incorrect. Because of goal differential, a tie would get us 6th if wolves tie chelsea.
What about this scenario:
- We get the win against Palace; 6W, 2D, 1L after the break.
- Wolves beat Chelsea.
- Chelsea beat Woolwich in the FA Cup.
- Wolves are EL Champions.
We would be out of Europa League, but it wouldn't be our fault. The worst-case scenario in which Woolwich are champions wouldn't exist - while they already finished behind us in the League.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a EL hater. But considering how tight next season's shedule will be, it would be a massive advantage, from a pragmatic point of view, not having to travel so much and play Thursday-Sunday at least 15 times during the season - not even counting the national cup(s). While, if we were to focus on the national competitions, we would basically have one game to play p/week.
Would you take it?
- We get the win against Palace; 6W, 2D, 1L after the break.
- Wolves beat Chelsea.
- Chelsea beat Woolwich in the FA Cup.
- Wolves are EL Champions.
We would be out of Europa League, but it wouldn't be our fault. The worst-case scenario in which Woolwich are champions wouldn't exist - while they already finished behind us in the League.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a EL hater. But considering how tight next season's shedule will be, it would be a massive advantage, from a pragmatic point of view, not having to travel so much and play Thursday-Sunday at least 15 times during the season - not even counting the national cup(s). While, if we were to focus on the national competitions, we would basically have one game to play p/week.
Would you take it?
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Chelsea might just phone it in against Woolwich, just to screw us over again.We'll have to wait and see I guess (and hope it's irrelevant) - although the same is on the Premier League website
Battle for Europe: How PL clubs sealed UEFA qualification
The Premier League's European qualifiers have been finalised for the 2020/21 season
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Five clubs in UEFA Champions League?
What if a club win the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League and finish outside the top four?
In such a scenario, the Premier League would get a fifth representative in the 2020/21 UEFA Champions League.
As a result, only two spots would be available for the UEFA Europa League, with the FA Cup winners getting one of them if they have not already qualified for Europe through their league position.
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Most other clubs probably wouldn't even bother checking this - Still not healed from 2012 though!
Meh. I’d like us to be in Europe as it’s a potential trophy, an opportunity for some squad players, and another route to the CL.
On the other hand a season without European football has proven to be beneficial for other teams around us, so I’m pretty relaxed about either of those possibilities.