What Tottenham will we go back to?

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Lay off who ever they don't need, cut down wherever they can and hope they can see the year through.
The pubs might close their gates for a while

Practical thinking, but no less sad and disruptive for those that it effects. Unlike the proprietors who will be quids in if they can whether the storm, employees won't return on double pay to pick up any slack.
 
Well the pubs and shops have known about the rebuild for some time, they also know they could have many many more customers when we come back.

Therefore I would like to think they have been planning this for years, take the hit now then reap the rewards when we return.
How do you "plan" for this if you're a little man business who survives month to month?

With respect, Levy only announced we were definitely leaving in the past few weeks. How could the businesses plan?
 
Well the pubs and shops have known about the rebuild for some time, they also know they could have many many more customers when we come back.

Therefore I would like to think they have been planning this for years, take the hit now then reap the rewards when we return.

Yep the pub right next to the ground (No. 8) is obviously a very football pub (in a non-local way).... they've been cashing in for the past year or two on £5 a pint. Perhaps that was necessary to tide them over a year.
I hope there is some local authority support or some understanding bank managers.

Gilpin Bell may be gone. I know that does get some local business but it's a big old pub and under threat from developers.

I think Bricklayers has enough of a local trade to survive.

Bill Nic I predict will survive - even if it got boarded up for a year.

Also I would hope any casual bar worker or mobile stall would be able to up sticks to Wembley for a year just like the rest of us...

Knowing how busy many pubs are on match day, the thought of double potential custom represents a massive opportunity for those who do tough it out!
 
Even without the foot traffic you would hope there is at least enough to keep the shops/pubs open with a smaller staff, admittley laying people off is awful.

Whether we go now or next year it's been known for a long time so you hope some plans or thoughts had occurred.

In terms of rent and other costs we can only hope landlords and such recognise this will be a tough year but the following could be great and show some flexibility.
Again, how do you plan for it if you live on month to month profits? You seem to be saying that they make so much on match day that they can squirrel away thousands. I'm not so sure that's realistic.
 
Most pints in London are around £5 unless you're in a Wetherspoons. Not exactly "cashing in" given the percentage of the money that they actually get to keep.



"Casual bar worker"?

£5 for some craft hipster stuff is common, yes but £5 for a Fosters is abhorrent,.... definitely off the chart in Tottenham!

'Casual Bar Worker'? Well just someone who does matchday shifts in a pub.... Most local pubs employ many matchday only staff. That demand still exists - it will just be in Wembley. Green Man or Torch are going to need many more people on those matchdays obviously.
 
Well Id expect the local workforce to explode over the next 14 months to get the build complete. That will help the local food shops and Friday evening pub take could increase.

Iam not sure the local pubs and food outlets will be coining it in when we return. The stadium seems designed to take all your match day pounds and a lot will be eating and drinking in the stadium. Let's face WHL bars were woefull and positively forced you to drink local and turn up with 5 mins to go.

We have to make a conscious effort to support the local businesses once spurs return or the stadium will swallow everything whole.
I agree,but for some the pub is as much of the match day experience as the game. So I still think the pubs that survive will see an upturn in fortunes.I think the match day only pubs* are the ones that will suffer/sell up. A business man with patience could make a few quid should they choose to invest in any of them.


*I know the Billy Nick is match day only,is the Two brewers as well?
 
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One thing that hasn't been discussed as much in this thread is gentrification and the positive and negative affects. With a fancy hotel and flats coming along with the stadium it could speed up the gentrification process which has started to happen a bit in Tottenham.

That might also affect businesses, some more able to take advantage than others so the dynamic of the area could begin to change.
Pubs will have to change a bit, should Tottenham go the way of other areas.
They can still be pubs, but clean themselves up.
The Beehive is a good example of a pub that would fit in with new money in the area, but is still a pub.
 
Does no one here think the pubs or fast food shops closing could be a good thing?

For a long time Tottenham has been a deprived poverty stricken area with social issues. A food shop isn't going to stop that - like some people have pointed out, sometimes a food shop can have just 1-2 employees. Even worse many food shops are used as cover ups for drug dealers - an issue the Tottenham area definitely has.

It seems like a lot of people want a palace (Our new stadium) surrounded by...well, a tip, to be blunt.

The area isn't going to be regenerated and head in a positive direction upon the backs of chip shops. I can understand why many of you have affection for these places - memories and pre-match traditions, a place to go before games that offers you a service you'd struggle to find elsewhere. Although a pub or food shop may be great for you as individuals, I have to wonder if it's positive for the area as a whole to depend on what is essentially dead-end career routes.

You can't have the area redeveloped, regenerated and reinvigorated yet demand the area depends on low-skill jobs at the same time.
What's your solution? A high road full of soulless chains?
 
I mean in terms of the area. The pubs and fast food places like Chick King, the kebab shops and so on, rely heavily on match day revenue and that's now gone until summer 2018. One of the bar girls in the Bell & Hare seemed to think that many pub staff might be out of the job by Christmas, even if the pubs survive. Thoughts?

Well the pubs and shops have known about the rebuild for some time, they also know they could have many many more customers when we come back.

Therefore I would like to think they have been planning this for years, take the hit now then reap the rewards when we return.
 
How do you "plan" for this if you're a little man business who survives month to month?

With respect, Levy only announced we were definitely leaving in the past few weeks. How could the businesses plan?

Even without the foot traffic you would hope there is at least enough to keep the shops/pubs open with a smaller staff, admittley laying people off is awful.

Whether we go now or next year it's been known for a long time so you hope some plans or thoughts had occurred.

In terms of rent and other costs we can only hope landlords and such recognise this will be a tough year but the following could be great and show some flexibility.
 
£5 for some craft hipster stuff is common, yes but £5 for a Fosters is abhorrent,.... definitely off the chart in Tottenham!
Mate, they charge a fiver for a warm can or bottle in some pubs around the Lane. There will always be a mark up. But most pubs outside Wetherspoons charge close to a fiver now for a pint. I just don't think the mark up is that significant, and certainly not one that can earn them enough cash to save for a year without good business.

'Casual Bar Worker'? Well just someone who does matchday shifts in a pub.... Most local pubs employ many matchday only staff. That demand still exists - it will just be in Wembley. Green Man or Torch are going to need many more people on those matchdays obviously.
Well, this presumes that most workers are casual, and it presumes that they can dump one employer for another at the choice and go back when it suits them. Is that realistic?
 
Again, how do you plan for it if you live on month to month profits? You seem to be saying that they make so much on match day that they can squirrel away thousands. I'm not so sure that's realistic.

Well the alternative is maybe to borrow, again we can only hope that most of the businesses are ready and in good stead. Has the club said anything about this issue?
 
but unfortunatly they will flock here in their droves as a direct consequence of NFL and that fake "Yanky" vibe everyone that will want to get into when they watch fat blokes wear crash helmets and tights get shagged out running for an average 4 seconds worth of play
His café will be able to put on a hell of guy buster son those days. Have you ever seen a Denny's breakfast? Obscene!
 
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