The club should do something to encourage fans to watch away games and sold out home games in the Tottenham pubs.
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In fact, to anyone clicking on this thread, can I ask that people give me a list of businesses they frequent and would like to see stay? On my next day off I might phone around some of these businesses and see what they think, and then maybe to an article for TFC on the subject.
Well Id expect the local workforce to explode over the next 14 months to get the build complete. That will help the local food shops and Friday evening pub take could increase.
Iam not sure the local pubs and food outlets will be coining it in when we return. The stadium seems designed to take all your match day pounds and a lot will be eating and drinking in the stadium. Let's face WHL bars were woefull and positively forced you to drink local and turn up with 5 mins to go.
We have to make a conscious effort to support the local businesses once spurs return or the stadium will swallow everything whole.
Iam not sure the local pubs and food outlets will be coining it in when we return. The stadium seems designed to take all your match day pounds and a lot will be eating and drinking in the stadium. Let's face WHL bars were woefull and positively forced you to drink local and turn up with 5 mins to go.
We have to make a conscious effort to support the local businesses once spurs return or the stadium will swallow everything whole.
I was thinking about this the other day.
I went down to the club shop one Friday evening and popped into the Bell & Hare for a swift one and there was one other chap in there. Not being from the area and not having been in there on a non match day before it looked really odd being so quiet and empty.
One positive I can think of is that if they all survive one season, then they'll have twice as many people coming into the area on match day from Aug '18.
But I reckon that's a pretty big if for some.
I went down to the club shop one Friday evening and popped into the Bell & Hare for a swift one and there was one other chap in there. Not being from the area and not having been in there on a non match day before it looked really odd being so quiet and empty.
One positive I can think of is that if they all survive one season, then they'll have twice as many people coming into the area on match day from Aug '18.
But I reckon that's a pretty big if for some.
I has a chat with the bloke in the Chip shop on Sunday.
"Bag of chips, please mate.' I said.
"Salt and Vinegar?" he replied.
Makes you think.
"Bag of chips, please mate.' I said.
"Salt and Vinegar?" he replied.
Makes you think.
I mean in terms of the area. The pubs and fast food places like Chick King, the kebab shops and so on, rely heavily on match day revenue and that's now gone until summer 2018. One of the bar girls in the Bell & Hare seemed to think that many pub staff might be out of the job by Christmas, even if the pubs survive. Thoughts?
Most pints in London are around £5 unless you're in a Wetherspoons. Not exactly "cashing in" given the percentage of the money that they actually get to keep.
"Casual bar worker"?
Plus what would have happened to the club it's self? I don't think the momentum of the last two seasons would have been achieved and we wouldn't be where we are just now! The whole plan would have been disastrous!
Meh... Most of London your lucky to get change out if a fiver these days... Even in Sam Smiths.
And you think they just get a magic auto-transfer to those pubs...? Wembley pubs will have their own staffing agenda.
Good point above about the labourers... Hope this'll help cushion the blow somewhat.
I suspect it's going to be a mixed bag of companies going bust and surviving. All the business would have had the best part of 10 years to plan for this, so putting something away to see them through a lean year or gear up to cater for a non-football customer for next year.
Here is a view of the owner of Jacks Cafe on Park Lane, next to the ticket office taken from an article in the Telegraph leading up The Finale.
Glory nights and Gazza's gun - Spurs prepare to bid a fond farewell to White Hart Lane
At Jack’s Cafe, they have been serving bacon baps and egg sandwiches to hungry fans for 26 years. In fact, the building dates back more than a century. “See the date on that?” Jim says, pointing at an old photograph of what used to be Delight’s grocery store. “1903.”
“Still got the same tiles,” a customer wryly remarks.
For Jim, regeneration offers both risk and reward. No matchdays for a year will have an impact on revenue, and with Tottenham continuing to buy up land in the area, there is always the possibility that another wave of expansion could spell the end. But Jim is more intrigued by the potential benefits.
“The way I look at it,” he says, “we’ll have the construction site here, and so the construction boys will come in. They’re going to build a hotel here, and have you ever had a hotel breakfast? Rubbish. Come over here, for £5 you’ll get the whole lot, fresh. So instead of having one big bumper day, it’ll be a good day every day.”
The one thing I would hate to see personally is a High Road full of fucking wank American food franchise's, shite food, shite service, no culture, bland, slowing killing people with their sugar and fat infested processed food but unfortunatly they will flock here in their droves as a direct consequence of NFL and that fake "Yanky" vibe everyone that will want to get into when they watch fat blokes wear crash helmets and tights get shagged out running for an average 4 seconds worth of play. They will then drive up the rents that only serves to push out other businesses in the area.
There is also the question of the concourses within the stadium itself. All the plans have shown that we building a whole new level of entertainment, we will be the only stadium in England who's concourses will be fitted out to a "retail" style level, this is achieved because we are going to great expense to fit these out with automated fire extinguishers, smoking areas etc. All designed to get you into the stadium and eat and drink before and after each game and event. We have recently made application for licences to serve extra hours before and after each kick off. This makes the stadium as direct competition to the retailers outside the stadium, although Spurs have made it known they want to have local companies to be given a stadium concession. We also hired recently a new Snr Director from Uncle Joe's vast food a retail sector of businesses, if there was any doubt as to how seriously we are tacking this.
Interesting times ahead for the area, challenging is an understatement of which the next couple of years being the hardest to navigate.
Here is a view of the owner of Jacks Cafe on Park Lane, next to the ticket office taken from an article in the Telegraph leading up The Finale.
Glory nights and Gazza's gun - Spurs prepare to bid a fond farewell to White Hart Lane
At Jack’s Cafe, they have been serving bacon baps and egg sandwiches to hungry fans for 26 years. In fact, the building dates back more than a century. “See the date on that?” Jim says, pointing at an old photograph of what used to be Delight’s grocery store. “1903.”
“Still got the same tiles,” a customer wryly remarks.
For Jim, regeneration offers both risk and reward. No matchdays for a year will have an impact on revenue, and with Tottenham continuing to buy up land in the area, there is always the possibility that another wave of expansion could spell the end. But Jim is more intrigued by the potential benefits.
“The way I look at it,” he says, “we’ll have the construction site here, and so the construction boys will come in. They’re going to build a hotel here, and have you ever had a hotel breakfast? Rubbish. Come over here, for £5 you’ll get the whole lot, fresh. So instead of having one big bumper day, it’ll be a good day every day.”
The one thing I would hate to see personally is a High Road full of fucking wank American food franchise's, shite food, shite service, no culture, bland, slowing killing people with their sugar and fat infested processed food but unfortunatly they will flock here in their droves as a direct consequence of NFL and that fake "Yanky" vibe everyone that will want to get into when they watch fat blokes wear crash helmets and tights get shagged out running for an average 4 seconds worth of play. They will then drive up the rents that only serves to push out other businesses in the area.
There is also the question of the concourses within the stadium itself. All the plans have shown that we building a whole new level of entertainment, we will be the only stadium in England who's concourses will be fitted out to a "retail" style level, this is achieved because we are going to great expense to fit these out with automated fire extinguishers, smoking areas etc. All designed to get you into the stadium and eat and drink before and after each game and event. We have recently made application for licences to serve extra hours before and after each kick off. This makes the stadium as direct competition to the retailers outside the stadium, although Spurs have made it known they want to have local companies to be given a stadium concession. We also hired recently a new Snr Director from Uncle Joe's vast food a retail sector of businesses, if there was any doubt as to how seriously we are tacking this.
Interesting times ahead for the area, challenging is an understatement of which the next couple of years being the hardest to navigate.
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Pavro Ocakbasi Restaurant - Tottenham - Turkish
I've always loved grabbing a beer and kebab here if I arrive early doors. The bloke who sits over the coal grill must lose 5kg every time he works.
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I think if the businesses can survive the year away then they will be in for a better future. It's just that year away that concerns me - and to be honest I think Jack's Cafe are being a little optimistic if they think every builder is going to head to their drum for a fry up every morning - and even if they did, that doesn't save the pubs or the chicken and kebab places.
They're superb, i can never understand when it's early and tables are still free but people are queueing out the door for a take away...
Take a load off, get a proper Adana or something, rice, bit of hoummas and a bottle of Efes... perfect way to start a day of football!
Don't know mate. I would have thought he is booming right now with 1,500 builders on site, same with other shops. This is additional people every day 7 days a week, 365 days a year, rather than the football crowd once a fortnight for 8 months of the year. I've been during the day at lunchtime a number of times and all you can see is high viz jackets with a bag of lunch in their hands, purchased from Sainsbury's to ChickKing. This of course is not a scientific study but it's a hive of activity at the moment just as it will be next year, but I could well have it very wrong and these places are suffering but compared to pre-build and now it certainly feels busier.
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Hahaha
I am trying to think up other excuses to wear it, definatly not selling.
I am talking about Eddie and his nephew who ran the BQ.
Was a cracking pub back in its day.
Another lost gem. When it was first rebuilt in the early 70s(I think) it was the players post match watering hole.
One thing that hasn't been discussed as much in this thread is gentrification and the positive and negative affects. With a fancy hotel and flats coming along with the stadium it could speed up the gentrification process which has started to happen a bit in Tottenham.
That might also affect businesses, some more able to take advantage than others so the dynamic of the area could begin to change.
That might also affect businesses, some more able to take advantage than others so the dynamic of the area could begin to change.
No. It will be tough for them, but as always there are opportunities for those that try / adapt.
Lay off who ever they don't need, cut down wherever they can and hope they can see the year through.
The pubs might close their gates for a while
The pubs might close their gates for a while
Oh and I suppose a lot will close down and cash in on their property so some investor could have a shop running by the start of 18-19