Var poll yay or nay

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Do you want VAR in the game?

  • Yes

    Votes: 90 56.6%
  • No

    Votes: 69 43.4%

  • Total voters
    159
It needs some refining but in general it’s good to get correct decisions I suppose

I don’t know where it leaves linesmen anymore though

"Up shit creek without a paddle" comes to mind. Last night's game was a perfect example of line officials scared to make a decision regarding offside and keeping their flags down, relying on VAR to sort out the ensuing mess.
The technology is fine but it is the manner in which it is being implemented and allowed to cause unnecessary disruption to the flow of the game. It is not a panacea for all ills but if used correctly it can be of benefit. That will take time but for the moment referees seem to be using it as a crutch rather than an aid. Should that be allowed to continue then it will destroy this beautiful game.
 
I'd prefer the Geordie big brother guy
I'd prefer the voice of Adolf Hitler. Then a cheesewire shoots across the pitch at neck height, so he'd better stop running or get decapitated. What's German for offside?

Too late, I googled it - Abseits Schweinhund.
 
As technology improves surely it can be done in real time and eliminate linesmen? Some weird buzzer goes off when it's an offside 😂
Don't see the point of assistant refs when there's VAR operating, they have been hamstrung and rendered redundant.
If you have to have someone on the field of play, think it might be better to have a ref in each half of the pitch, so they have less ground to cover and they can keep up with play more efficiently.
 
This poll continues to be a stubborn reflection of the Brexit poll (currently 49/51 against VAR).

I'm starting to believe that if the British public are asked to make a simple yes/no decision, it's written in the stars that they'll fuck it up.

We clearly need a forum of national unity led by a Varmainer until a confirmatory second vote which will not contain the option to say that VAR is shit.
 
You doing drugs now ??

Yes, the drug is known as 'look at me, I just wrote an article which I hope I spell checked'.
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Unfortunately there are three types....weather vane, needle in the vein and the one you wanted...all in vain. The wonders of the English language.....then there's bloody Welsh :roflmao:
 
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The Premier League's implementation of VAR has been nothing short of a disgrace. They've in effect created a situation where the match is refereed by two different officials, which is creating a dissolution of responsibility. And what you get in that situation is inaction and you're going to see blatant penalties not given and blatant howlers not corrected.
 
It's incidents like tonight when the penalty decisions are clear and obviously wrong and VAR don't overturn them.

Yes and they said the VAR team didn't have access to the images we had on BT Sport, which is fucking weird and an example of issues with the technology.

I don't know the exact stats, but I would suggest VAR is winning heavily in the right:wrong ratio.

Doesn't help that we have some really poor refs in England at the moment who's poor decisions I welcome seeing overturned.
 
It's taken away the spontaneity, and the decisions take too long. The goal mouth technology is great, because it's fact and not open to interpretation.

Spot on. I'm actually not celebrating goals as wildly anymore, and I hate that. I think we've left the referee in a terrible position. There's still these 50/50 situations, and now everybody expect the right call. Even though we've got the same agenda on this forum, people never seem to agree if it should be pen or not, even after watching 10 slows.

But my biggest problem with this "fairness", is that it's not fair. So one ref sees it one way and another ref another way. E.g. our first leg Chl against City where they got a penalty for a Rose handball. So no City player reacted but the ref thought it was a pen. Fernandinho didn't get a red for elbowing Kane, but that's not a part of my story, cos meanwhile in Porto - Liverpool was visiting. So at some point in the game a Liverpool player heads the ball down on the hand of another Liverpool player, of course in the penalty box. Nothing was given. Even though it was quite similar with arms lenght from body and hit from short distance. System doesn't work.

I know we wouldn't have made the final without VAR, but I'm still not a fan. And I hope I'll never end in the same place as the City fans. Must have hurt.

 
VAR can be solved easily... Has there been a clear and obvious error? If yes overturn, if no then refs original decision should stand.

If it's still open to debate and not 100 percent conclusive, the refs results stands.

The problem is that its trying to be used in a way that is impossible - it's trying to catch anything and everything that occurs on the pitch to see if a decision can be overturned.... That is wrong.

If it's used as an extra pair of eyes to make sure that the ref hasn't made a howler then it's fine......

Simple rules

If you need a theoretical line to decide whether someone is offside then it's not clear and obvious,....... Clear and obvious is offside to the naked eye.

If a penalty is not given on the field and VAR have to make a decision on the minutest of contacts then the refs original decision should stand as its not clear and obvious.

If the ref has missed a blatant punch, headbutt or other clear red card offence then it should be used.

Clear and Obvious!
That just moves the argument to defining clear and obvious, which is a human call. Keep it for offside and bin the rest.
 
VAR was supposed to remove 'We was robbed!' from the game. It hasn't done so - and I don't think it ever will, thank God - it's the only vestige of pride some supporters (eg Geordies) have.

That said, it has the potential to reduce the number of wrong decisions that go against elite, top flight teams like us.

Edit - Wow - currently the vote is like a re-run of Brexit.

Most of the time 'we was robbed' is just a saying when people don't like the result.

You will still get that - but you can limit the examples of things like giving offsides when the player receives the ball in his own half - clear and obvious.

You can limit the penalties given when there is clear daylight between attacker and defender - clear and obvious.

You can punish a player for an off the ball incident that the ref hasn't spotted - clear and obvious.

The Abraham dive last night does not fall under clear and obvious and so the refs decision should stand, whether she gave a penalty or said no penalty.

As I said before - if VAR is used correctly, 99 percent of the the on field decisions will stand.
 
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We will see what happens but I reckon Refs will now give more penalties on the basis that VAR will correct a mistake. That is what happened in rugby - give the try on the field and leave it to the video ref to see if there is any reason to overturn the decision.

I've no problem if we end up with a correct decision but the fact is we aren't , I saw the ball hit a villa players hand in our game at the weekend VAR didn't give it nor did the ref, why? , VAR should be the authority on such matters not give the ref the benefit of the doubt when he/she is clearly wrong.
 
I've no problem if we end up with a correct decision but the fact is we aren't , I saw the ball hit a villa players hand in our game at the weekend VAR didn't give it nor did the ref, why? , VAR should be the authority on such matters not give the ref the benefit of the doubt when he/she is clearly wrong.
Jacqui Oatley has made it her business to try and explain it all on her twitter feed. Every time she makes a clarification it becomes harder to understand.
 
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