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If Benny is supposed to come back i wouldn't give him playtime right away, he still needs to get into and a sudden return to the opening lineup won't be a good thing to do. i would like to see Townsend this time playing up on the left instead of Bale. even as a subtitute for him.

It will get physical, bloody Charlie Adam :dawsonwtf:
 
If there's no Adebayor we should definitely play Gylfi. His ball retention is better than Dempsey's and that's going to be an important thing for this match. Perhaps go 4-3-3? Hopefully BAE and Bale are back. Dawson back?

Lloris​
Walker --- Vertonghen --- Caulker --- BAE​
Sandro​
Sigurdsson --- Dembele​
Lennon ----------- Defoe ------------- Bale​
 
Disagree entirely re: IsraeliYid IsraeliYid . BAE is our natural left-back. If he's struggling for fitness then we can withdraw him and push Verts out left, bringing Caulker (is he fit?) into the middle, or sub Naughton to keep our shape a bit more and keep Verts in the middle, but it's crucial that he builds match fitness in order to immediately contribute more to the team, and 10 or 15 minutes at the end of the match isn't going to help that much in that direction.

If Bale is fit then he needs to play, not necessarily because he's irreplaceable, but because Stoke are renowned for their well-organized defense and Bale provides more of an experienced and cutting edge against that system. Now, Bale hasn't been out long, and I don't think match fitness will be much of a problem, so let's throw him in and try to put Stoke to the sword, am I right?
 
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Tottenham Hotspur host Stoke City at White Hart Lane on Saturday 22nd December 2012 (KO 15:00) in the 18th round of 2012-13 Premier League matches.

Spurs come into the match in 4th place in the Premier League on 29 points with Stoke in 9th place on 24 points.

This will be the 84th time the two teams have met.

The first ever meeting came at the Victoria Ground when Stoke City were playing as Stoke FC in the old first round of the FA Cup in February 1896 in a match Stoke won 5-0.

Stoke had become one of the 12 founding members of the Football League in 1888 and the clubs were drawn together in the third round of the FA Cup in February 1899 at the Victoria Ground with Stoke winning 4-1.

The first match at White Hart Lane between the clubs was a friendly played in March 1900 with Spurs, then Champions of the Southern League, beating Stoke 6-0.

Spurs joined the Football League for the 1908-09 season, replacing Stoke who had resigned at the end of the previous season for financial reasons. The clubs didn't meet in a League match until April 1920 in the Second Division with Tottenham winning 2-0 at the Lane and 3-1 at the Victoria Ground.

The first meeting in Division One came in March 1923 at Stoke which resulted in a 0-0 draw. Spurs won the reverse fixture at the Lane a week later 3-1.

The clubs met for five seasons in the Second Division between 1928 to 1933 and for two seasons in Division One from 1934 to 1935.

After the Second World War, the clubs met in the modern FA Cup third round in January 1947 at White Hart Lane which resulted in a 2-2 draw with Stoke winning the replay 1-0 thanks to a Stanley Matthews goal.

Three years later, Spurs beat Stoke 1-0 away in the third round.

Spurs were Football League Champions in 1950-51 and beat Stoke 6-1 at home but could only draw 0-0 away during that season.

Every League game played between Spurs and Stoke since WW2 has taken place in the Top Flight, except for season 1977-78 when Spurs spent a single season in Division Two, beating Stoke 3-1 in both matches.

The clubs met in the FA Cup in January 1976 with a 1-1 draw at the Lane followed by a 2-1 win for Stoke in the replay.

Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 but Stoke City's first season in the competition only came in 2008-09 with Stoke winning 2-1 at the Britannia Stadium and Spurs winning 3-1 at the Lane.

During 2009-10, Stoke won 1-0 at White Hart Lane with Spurs winning 2-1 at the Britannia.

In 2010-11, Spurs did the "double" over Stoke, winning the away fixture 2-1 with a brace of goals from Gareth Bale and the home fixture 3-2 in April with a double from Peter Crouch and a Luka Modric goal.

The teams met for the first time in the Football League (Carling) Cup 3rd round in September 2011 at Stoke and the match finished in a goalless draw after extra time. Stoke went on to win the penalty shoot-out 7-6. Spurs youngster Massimo Luongo penalty was saved by Thomas Sorensen.

The 2011-12 Premier League game at the Britannia Stadium in December was won 2-1 by Stoke with a Matthew Etherington brace putting the Potters 2-0 up at half-time. Tottenham's Emmanuel Adebayor pulled a goal back from the penalty spot after 62 minutes but defender Younes Kaboul was sent-off after collecting two yellow cards.

The match at White Hart Lane in March 2012 resulted in a 1-1 draw. After a goalless first half, Cameron Jerome put the visitors ahead after 75 minutes but a Rafael van der Vaart header in the dying moments of the game ensured that honours were even.

Overall, Spurs have won 41 games, Stoke have won 23 games and the remaining 19 matches of the 83 played have been drawn.


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Joe Brough
George Clawley
Garth Crooks
Peter Crouch
Matthew Etherington
Ray Evans

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Eiður Guðjohnsen
Ken Hancock

Archie Heggarty
Stephen Kelly
Fred Latham
Billy Leech
Gerry Mahon
Ian Moores
James Morton
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Tony Parks
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If there's no Adebayor we should definitely play Gylfi. His ball retention is better than Dempsey's and that's going to be an important thing for this match. Perhaps go 4-3-3? Hopefully BAE and Bale are back. Dawson back?

Lloris​
Walker --- Vertonghen --- Caulker --- BAE​
Sandro​
Sigurdsson --- Dembele​
Lennon ----------- Defoe ------------- Bale​

I'd prefer Dempsey to Siggy...but how great does that back line look? 3-1 Spurs.
 
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Charlie Adam's father passed away last night, obviously may have some bearing on his involvement on Saturday.

Only 50 years old. That's terrible.
Can't stand the bloke on the football field but my thoughts go out to him. I guess it's still early in the week so he may still play. If he does then I'd hope that perhaps our fans can show the same sort of empathy we were famous for during the muamba incident and Adam will respond in kind by not acting the cunt against us for once?
 
Only 50 years old. That's terrible.
Can't stand the bloke on the football field but my thoughts go out to him. I guess it's still early in the week so he may still play. If he does then I'd hope that perhaps our fans can show the same sort of empathy we were famous for during the muamba incident and Adam will respond in kind by not acting the cunt against us for once?
I really really hope so. Would make me even more proud to be a supporter.
 
Adam is undoubtedly a cunt on the football pitch, but I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
I just hope he isn't massively wound up on Saturday, I don't want Bale injured as soon as he comes back.
 
I would be quite happy to start some random academy kid in midfield, the biggest one we can find, who has the sole task of breaking Adam in the first minute.

Happy to play the rest of the game with 10 men. Its actually better than starting with 11 and having 3 put out for weeks/months by Adams violent attacks I mean assaults Sorry, GBH hold on, Ill get it brawling, no?
Err, late tackles.
 
Oh dear, that looks a bit harsh in light of reading the rest of the thread :oops:

Still, if he starts I hope he doesnt last long.

Nah we can feel sorry for him off the pitch, that's fair enough. But as soon as he steps onto the green stuff he will become the cuntish thug he always has been. He certainly won't show our players ankles any mercy given the chance.
 
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