Danjuma probably the best player from Bournemouth, what I've seen of CCV would have him in our squad over Dier and Sanchez
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Both are better than CCV. He's a solid Championship level CB, was absolutely tore asunder against Southampton in the cup a while back. Can't at all handle pace.
As frustrating as Dier and Sanchez are, they're decent PL level players who have been part (and cause) of a dysfunctional squad.
Haven't seen a lot of Danjuma, but I see he was Bournemouth player of the season.
I've always liked CCV, maybe not a first class CB, but certainly a decent option. And at aged 22 still a lot of experience and with good coaching might well improve. And a Club trained player
Who are those if you don't mind?
I can’t believe Brooks is only 23! He was very impressive and showed lots of potential before his big injuries, I wonder if he is still the same player?
They're not great but for all their faults both have managed several good and even some excellent performances in the PL this year. Both have played fairly deep into a world cup tournament.
Again, I'd like to move on from both, both have cost us points this year, but they're not crap. Our issues go beyond their individual shortcomings.
He's a world class arm flailer, that's for sure. I mean shite on the ball and can't pick up a man, but for skipping, pointing and arm flailing, no one could be better.
Sometimes I don't know what to think. I mean, I don't like either of them, but if you take the time to watch other PL CBs, they have plenty of loose moments, too. But with some of those other PL CBs, I can see obvious strengths, whether it is electric pace, aerial ability, brute strength, ability on the ball, or maybe a combo of 2-3 of those things. Then there is the other stuff like positional sense/anticipation, composure and the ability to organise. And I look at our guys-and with my hand on my heart-I am not sure what their strengths are.
It's getting to the stage where, if we learned we were signing the likes of Mings, Tosin, Diop, Webster or Andersen, could we justify being up in arms over it? That tells you how little faith I have in our crew.
I think we sometimes fall into the trap of thinking our own players are worse than they are because we see every minute they play and see all of their mistakes, and we think that other clubs' players couldn't possibly be that bad, but we might be surprised.
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Always felt CCV wasn't treated right. He wasn't Sérgio Ramos, but he also wasn't as error prone as Dier or Sanchez and also is younger than both. Would like us to give him a real opportunity.
Said that the misjudgement of talent in this club seems a big problem. We play donkeys like Sissoko, Winks, Dier and Sanchez while let talent like Madueke go away cause they won't have opportunity here. Even Bentaleb is a much better player than Sissoko and Winks. Foyth is also a better defender than Dier and Sanchez.
Brooks would be a nice option off the bench over guys like Moura and Lamela. I'm not sure he is up to being a starter, especially with his injury history but as we saw last year with the Europa league games and when Ndombele or GLC were not available having some creativity on the bench/in the 2nd team would be nice. Plus his HG status also helps as well.
I think replacing Moura and Lamela with guys like Brooks, Buendia, Periera, Olise is exactly what we need to be doing. Honest would be fine replacing Bergwijn with one of them as well if you can get a decent price for him.
Sanchez is still only 24 years old. Dier is 27. It's usual for centre backs to improve as they reach there late 20's, very few are brilliant at a young age. Yes both Dier and Sanchez are guilty of brainfarts but I think our biggest problem is the protection in front of the defence no matter who our central defenders are.
I like Brooks, but I think his injury record, especially the type of injury, makes him a risk.
Coaching #1 issue imo, by a long way. If Dier or Sanchez played under Dyche the last two years I think they'd be well thought of, Sanchez maybe even a coveted defender.
Both have shown enough, especially with the ball that it is not age but ability holding them back from being top level PL players.
The decisions that Dier makes with the ball at his feet is not because he is 27, it is because he absolutely sucks with the ball at his feet. I don't think top level teams can get by with CB's that are terrible at playing the ball. They don't all have to be world class but they have to be comfortable or it puts too much pressure on the other players and it is too easy to pressure that player to cause major trouble.
Sanchez has also shown that he needs to be protected by a better CB to limit how much he has to do. Again I don't think you can expect to compete at the top 4 level with a CB that can't be expected to think the game for himself.
That is not because of who is in front of them, that is clear limitations in their game that puts them into trouble all on their own. Yes improving the guys in front of them would limit the chances they have to screw it up but they still have those major flaws and that is not something you can get away with in your CB's if you want to be competitive.
I'd say one is dozy and the other is feverish.
Leicester and WH bid 30m for Tarkowski last year, and he's no better than either Dier or Sanchez.
I think he is an upgrade on either of those guys but not much. He is limited as well but seems to be much more aware of those limits so he doesn't play as reckless.
Also seems to take control and actually do it effectively, rather than just scream and point like Dier thinking that makes him a leader, while actually doing nothing effective.
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