Whilst I agree absolutely, how do you propose we remove the cancer that has embedded itself in our club?
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I'd be relatively happy after Kane with Jimenez, if it could be done.
Im so jaded with all the reporting these days I just dont believe in the inevitability of NES coming in.
Im still waiting on the next "twist".
Nagelsmann was going to come in (we all know he'd go Bayern) then he went to Bayern.
Poch was going to return! Sensational move by Spurs! - Nothing happened
Spurs in talks with Conte! Conte set to take over! - Talks broke down
Fonseca has contract on the table! SPurs to announce new manager! - lol
Spurs in talks with GAttuso! New manager found! - sounds like a conversation at best
NES Spurs top target! Spurs to announce new manager! - Yawn...
I mean, in every case the substance of the 'reporting' simply hasnt matched reality.
It seems "talks" are taken to mean "imminent appointment", when we all know they can be anything from very close to a deal to a preliminary/exploratory conversation.
So I see all these headlines last night, and Im not even thinking "Oh, NES to be manager? How do I feel about that?", Im more thinking "As a bit of a thought exercise, what is it about NES that puts people off so much? I never had that much feeling about him..." - its totally abstract
Im more expecting today ANOTHER "XXX about to take over at Spurs!" headline than I am a "NES confirmed at Spurs" one.
I felt earlier in the week we might be keeping him on the back burner, a back up option should we fail on better candidates. And that being the case it would make sense there have been some conversations with him to facilitate a quick move if needed. And right now I feel no different, he's probably fall back option to better candidates.
Which means by the time Ive posted this his announcement tweet has been released....
Im still waiting on the next "twist".
Nagelsmann was going to come in (we all know he'd go Bayern) then he went to Bayern.
Poch was going to return! Sensational move by Spurs! - Nothing happened
Spurs in talks with Conte! Conte set to take over! - Talks broke down
Fonseca has contract on the table! SPurs to announce new manager! - lol
Spurs in talks with GAttuso! New manager found! - sounds like a conversation at best
NES Spurs top target! Spurs to announce new manager! - Yawn...
I mean, in every case the substance of the 'reporting' simply hasnt matched reality.
It seems "talks" are taken to mean "imminent appointment", when we all know they can be anything from very close to a deal to a preliminary/exploratory conversation.
So I see all these headlines last night, and Im not even thinking "Oh, NES to be manager? How do I feel about that?", Im more thinking "As a bit of a thought exercise, what is it about NES that puts people off so much? I never had that much feeling about him..." - its totally abstract
Im more expecting today ANOTHER "XXX about to take over at Spurs!" headline than I am a "NES confirmed at Spurs" one.
I felt earlier in the week we might be keeping him on the back burner, a back up option should we fail on better candidates. And that being the case it would make sense there have been some conversations with him to facilitate a quick move if needed. And right now I feel no different, he's probably fall back option to better candidates.
Which means by the time Ive posted this his announcement tweet has been released....
And bowing down to accept 20 years of miss management is helping?
LEVY AND ENIC HAVE TO GO.
Agree with most of that. Yes, to move forward we ned to sell the club, but there are few owners who buy clubs in order they can win trophies. Most are like ENIC, who invest purely to make money.
Where I disagree is Levy's positive points. OK we have a great stadium and training ground, but let's not forget, that was only funded by the club and outside investors. It also took him many years to do this. Finishing in a top four position means absolutely nothing to me. Football is about winning trophies, not coming runners up, third, or even fourth. On a few occasions under harry and Poch, we were on the cusp of great things, but Levy failed to invest a relatively small amount to get us there. When we did have a decent side he also failed to keep the momentum going, and allowed the players to get old and complacent. Finally, he wanted to take us to East London (and he did) and that I will never forgive him for
Apparently Nuno may have left Wolves due to a lack of finances.
www.footballfancast.com
So him coming to us is not a foregone conclusion.
Why did Nuno Santo leave Wolves?
Nuno Espirito Santo may have left Wolves due to a lack of spending available at Molineux this summer.
www.footballfancast.com
So him coming to us is not a foregone conclusion.
I don't really see where Ali, Ndobby, or GLC fit into Santo's formation? I assume the CMF would be PEH and Skipp, joined by the Wing backs either side.
Jose won everything in football , but he didn’t last season . You’re only as good as your last season
For a newly promoted team they've done pretty well over all, last year injuries and a smaller squad than ours, they really have nothing much on the bench. I think with a larger and more decent squad (and ours is) he'd be ok. That doesn't mean I'm jumping with joy about Santo, but lets see.
I am a little bit behind what’s going on but will try to put straight what I “understand” about this whole process
Levy sack, instead of back, Pochettino a few months after he took Spurs to a CL final, because he “lost” the dressing room…
Levy employs Jose – who’s known to lose both the dressing room and the board room – because he’s a winner…
Levy fires Jose because Jose has lost the dressing room and board room when Jose actually exposes the lack of “winners” in the Spurs dressing room and board room
Levy thinks he can get Naglesmann after he sacks Jose, not knowing what is an already open secret: that Hansi Flick will be leaving Bayern, who then will hire Nagelsmann (his dream job)….
Levy then goes for Flick, ignoring the fact that Flick has had his mind set on the German job for months
Levy tells Hitchen to make a short-list
Levy starts courting Pochettino, only to be told that PSG are unwilling to let him go
Levy tries to sell Spurs to Conte, while he’s “secretly” courting Pochettino, only to be told by Conte that Spurs doesn’t match his ambitions as the players aren’t good enough and he wants his coaching-staff
Levy put feelers out for Rodgers, who then uses the press to tell Levy he doesn’t want the Spurs job
Levy tells Hitchen to make a new shortlist of manager
Levy contacts Ten Hag, but the time it takes Levy to decide it reaches a date whereby Ajax can trigger a contract extension, which makes it hard to get him and no still decision is taken regarding Ten Hag
Levy contacts Lopetegui who turns Spurs down, knowing he’s better off at Sevilla (not just because of the weather).
Levy aginst tries for Pochettino
Levy gets a call from Klinsmann but, fortunately, tells him he’s too busy then to talk about the vacant manager job
Levy put feelers out for Marcelo Bielsa, whose contract expires this summer, but again no positive response…
Levy agrees to a deal with Fonseca, hires Paratici as DoF, but just before the Fonseca deal is signed, Gauttuso become available, and Paratici convinces Levy to go against Hitchen and cancel Fonseca’s contract and go for Gattuso instead ….only for Levy to change his mind about Gattuso after backlash from the fans…Gattuso text Insigne, “Spurs is a bit of a mess”
Levy is then informed that his new DoF wants Nuno, but Levy does not support that choice either, thus turning down the 2 top candidates of his new DoF
Levy again "secretly" courts Pochettiono
A new list is drawn up of “secret” candidates
Levy start talking to candidates Paratici doesn’t want, like Potter, and, again, Ten Hag, Valverde and Rangnick
Levy is working down the various lists been drawn up – first by Hitchen and then by Paratici and also his own list – and's now rumoured to be arriving at Gerrard…
Levy looks at his almanack and realises that pre-season starts in less than 2 weeks...
Levy sack, instead of back, Pochettino a few months after he took Spurs to a CL final, because he “lost” the dressing room…
Levy employs Jose – who’s known to lose both the dressing room and the board room – because he’s a winner…
Levy fires Jose because Jose has lost the dressing room and board room when Jose actually exposes the lack of “winners” in the Spurs dressing room and board room
Levy thinks he can get Naglesmann after he sacks Jose, not knowing what is an already open secret: that Hansi Flick will be leaving Bayern, who then will hire Nagelsmann (his dream job)….
Levy then goes for Flick, ignoring the fact that Flick has had his mind set on the German job for months
Levy tells Hitchen to make a short-list
Levy starts courting Pochettino, only to be told that PSG are unwilling to let him go
Levy tries to sell Spurs to Conte, while he’s “secretly” courting Pochettino, only to be told by Conte that Spurs doesn’t match his ambitions as the players aren’t good enough and he wants his coaching-staff
Levy put feelers out for Rodgers, who then uses the press to tell Levy he doesn’t want the Spurs job
Levy tells Hitchen to make a new shortlist of manager
Levy contacts Ten Hag, but the time it takes Levy to decide it reaches a date whereby Ajax can trigger a contract extension, which makes it hard to get him and no still decision is taken regarding Ten Hag
Levy contacts Lopetegui who turns Spurs down, knowing he’s better off at Sevilla (not just because of the weather).
Levy aginst tries for Pochettino
Levy gets a call from Klinsmann but, fortunately, tells him he’s too busy then to talk about the vacant manager job
Levy put feelers out for Marcelo Bielsa, whose contract expires this summer, but again no positive response…
Levy agrees to a deal with Fonseca, hires Paratici as DoF, but just before the Fonseca deal is signed, Gauttuso become available, and Paratici convinces Levy to go against Hitchen and cancel Fonseca’s contract and go for Gattuso instead ….only for Levy to change his mind about Gattuso after backlash from the fans…Gattuso text Insigne, “Spurs is a bit of a mess”
Levy is then informed that his new DoF wants Nuno, but Levy does not support that choice either, thus turning down the 2 top candidates of his new DoF
Levy again "secretly" courts Pochettiono
A new list is drawn up of “secret” candidates
Levy start talking to candidates Paratici doesn’t want, like Potter, and, again, Ten Hag, Valverde and Rangnick
Levy is working down the various lists been drawn up – first by Hitchen and then by Paratici and also his own list – and's now rumoured to be arriving at Gerrard…
Levy looks at his almanack and realises that pre-season starts in less than 2 weeks...
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Considering how Levy is a terrible chairman and how he fucks up almost every decision and makes teh worst possible choices, Nuno is better than Southgate or Martinez or Ryan the fraud mason or tim sherwood or god know what. Not a great choice but not the worst possible choice that we expect from a nobrain like levy.
I've been pretty level-headed throughout the search for a new manager, believing the club had targets and a strategy they were keeping secret, and the press were making up rumours to fill the void.
If we end up with NES, who was available very early on in the process, that will show we've been all over the place. I don't have a great feeling right now, in the past i've had faith there's been a strategy... it's wearing a bit thin now.
I'm starting to wonder about the long-term damage to our already tarnished reputation, It's clear we're hated by the press so some of this fall at their feet but I wonder how much we are fuelling ourselves?
The only way out of this for me is to employ an international manager, it would justify our lack of progress. Problem with that is the two mostly likely candidates scare the hell out of me.
If we end up with NES, who was available very early on in the process, that will show we've been all over the place. I don't have a great feeling right now, in the past i've had faith there's been a strategy... it's wearing a bit thin now.
I'm starting to wonder about the long-term damage to our already tarnished reputation, It's clear we're hated by the press so some of this fall at their feet but I wonder how much we are fuelling ourselves?
The only way out of this for me is to employ an international manager, it would justify our lack of progress. Problem with that is the two mostly likely candidates scare the hell out of me.
the employment of NES itself isn't necessarily the problem, it's the fact he's been available since the start... we've dicked around with tons of others that coming back to him reeks of desperation. That for me is the biggest issue and will justify lots in the press about how bad we are.
Throw enough shit... some is bound to stick
Throw enough shit... some is bound to stick
This is a complete clusterfuck, how long has new name Nuno been out of a job?
Joke.
Joke.
Wolves being promoted in PL is partly due to the money they spent. I mean mendes got them to shell out almost £40m on an 18 yr old who’d hardly paid. Is that the shit we are going to have? What is Nunos record pre wolves, does he bring through youngster from within the club, does he scout players, cheque book manager, etc?
I mean I don’t dislike the bloke , but a big concern Is the Mendes connection. I can see this all ending very messily
Why is Ryan Mason referred to as a fraud?
He’s not a fraud but he shouldn’t be managing a team like our. Forest Green perhaps