I think the reality is that he’s more likely to walk than be booted out.
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I think the reality is that he’s more likely to walk than be booted out.
Agreed. Plenty of reasons for our poor form (which really ran through most of last season, apart from a spell in December). Injuries, the stadium move, the focus on our CL run, contract issues. It happens, and when it does we need to weather the storm.
Pochettino has worked wonders at the club. He’s not beyond criticism by any stretch, but he should certainly get the benefit of the doubt. He was backed pretty well in the summer transfer window, and those players need time to adapt/get fit.
My only concern is the possibility that Pochettino himself is wanting out, which wouldn’t help team stability. If he’s committed, great. Keep him and support him. If he’s thinking of jumping ship then we need to look for a new manager, but god knows who that would be.
We're in a malaise right now. And I think a caretaker manager can improve things. Look at Tactics Tim - not a good manager, not a long-term solution at all, but did instantly improve results and got us into form that would've resulted in Top 4 had he been brought in earlier.
Did he?
22 games under Sherwood:
W: 13
D: 3
L: 6
Previous 22 games under AVB:
W: 12
D: 5
L: 5
It was hardly any better - and getting rid of Poch to bring in some random caretaker manager would be one of the worst decisions this clubs made in modern memory.
I'm surprised at the logical fallacy stick on repeat here: we were shit before Poch, therefore we will be shit after Poch.
I can't believe people are even contemplating the idea of getting rid off Poch. He has managed to take us to the next level as a club on a shoestring of a budget and very little investment from Levy (untill this season). Hes not perfect and of course he can be criticised but without him where would we be? Many managers would have walked after Levy sanctioned no transfers. He also showed great loyalty by rebuffing Man U and Real Madrid. Both bigger clubs who could pay him a ton more. The reality is if we get a good result against the scum the same people that will be giving him shit will be saying he's the best thing since sliced bread.
Poch isn’t that stupid.
He actually has very little pressure at Spurs. He moves to one of the really big boys then they will expect titles and silverware.
Here's the thing though, we WEREN'T shit before Poch. Intermittently we sucked, sure, but all told we punched moderately above our weight in the decade before Poch.
With Poch we've punched WAY WAY above our weight. That has helped our "weight" increase of course, but not by enough to expect to be Top 4 regulars going forward.
This has been a glaring problem for the last 3 or 4 seasons - we have no natural width in our midfield, everyone wants to play through the middle. Opportunities are created when balls are whipped into the box and defenders panic, they hate turning and heading towards goal.
We played Newcastle mate not Liverpool.
Play like this on Sunday and we will get mullard.
By the way forget the CL fluke and look at the last third of the seasons PL results.
Therein lies the truth.
And calling for a managers head who has made us champions league regulars and finalists is not fallacious reasoning and utterly stupid?
The fact remains we can only judge Poch by the past managers, not some utopian vision of the future - and no-one has come even close to getting us this far.
And lmao at someone suggesting we need a Sherwood-like replacement at the helm - the delusion runs deep in some.
Getting to the CL final was a fluke? That’s some crazy 6-month long fluke.
By that logic Pool winning the CL was a fluke as well - everyone’s sh!t and any improvement is down to luck.
Yup shit does happens.
Like in eleven of our last fifteen games, for over a third of our season.
But then again why let the facts get in the way of a good argument.
It really was! It was a lot of fun!
I don’t want Poch out personally. His tenure has been truly the best period of my life, Spurs wise.
His impact on the club and the development on the team will leave a permanent mark on the clubs history forever.
I’m worried that we’ve reached a stagnation point - the same group of players, the same manager, the same ideas and footballing philosophies. In any professional environment, humans always crave new challenges. Too much of the same is never good and from a footballing perspective, the squad has been quite stagnant over several years. Maybe Poch is frustrated because he wants a new challenge, and that has now imbibed onto the players, and that’s what we see tactically.
I don’t blame Poch because I’ve felt the same way myself, and it’s naturally what happens to anyone with ambition. Perhaps things would be different if Poch had a stronger hand and more active transfer dealings over the years, such that the squad evolving itself morphed into a new challenge and gave Poch the cards to take us to another level.
For now, if this situation continues, we seriously need to think about our next manager.
His impact on the club and the development on the team will leave a permanent mark on the clubs history forever.
I’m worried that we’ve reached a stagnation point - the same group of players, the same manager, the same ideas and footballing philosophies. In any professional environment, humans always crave new challenges. Too much of the same is never good and from a footballing perspective, the squad has been quite stagnant over several years. Maybe Poch is frustrated because he wants a new challenge, and that has now imbibed onto the players, and that’s what we see tactically.
I don’t blame Poch because I’ve felt the same way myself, and it’s naturally what happens to anyone with ambition. Perhaps things would be different if Poch had a stronger hand and more active transfer dealings over the years, such that the squad evolving itself morphed into a new challenge and gave Poch the cards to take us to another level.
For now, if this situation continues, we seriously need to think about our next manager.
Can't disagree with what your saying Newcastle should of been dispatched but the same old problems are still there and yes a gooner thrashing is on the cards if we don't sort our shit out (which I doubt).
The run to the CL final masked a bigger problem which was the high number of defeats we was suffering which was worthy of a team in mid table, but when along with a few others mentioned that the form was not good enough, the sisters that run everything around here tried to inform me and others that how dare we bring it up and that 18/19 defeats was perfectly acceptable for a team competing in the to four and CL.
Obviously this form is continuing and it may get worse before we see an improvement but clearly tactics, playing style or lack of it along with formations that don't work and stubborness over substitutions has helped get the team into the mess it's in.